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I'm getting tempted by the Susvara, but only currently have a RME ADI2 for output. Would adding a Burson Audio Soloist 3XP to the chain result in a satisfying (if upgradable some time later) result with the Susvara? Would a Cayin IHA-6 be better suited? Or is there another not overly expensive option?
 
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I'm getting tempted by the Susvara, but only currently have a RME ADI2 for output. Would adding a Burson Audio Soloist 3XP to the chain result in a satisfying (if upgradable some time later) result with the Susvara? Would a Cayin IHA-6 be better suited? Or is there another not overly expensive option?
The Burson 3xp will be around 2watts 60 ohms into the susvara so will be way better than the RME. The cayin is around 3.5W 60 ohms balanced.
 
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I'm getting tempted by the Susvara, but only currently have a RME ADI2 for output. Would adding a Burson Audio Soloist 3XP to the chain result in a satisfying (if upgradable some time later) result with the Susvara? Would a Cayin IHA-6 be better suited? Or is there another not overly expensive option?
Roksan K3 loudspeaker power amp, around 1200 Eur new.
I will report some time next week once all the gear is with me.
PS: or buy my Flux FA-10 for around 500 Eur which I will sell afterwards if everything goes well 😉
 
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It seems to be 1800€ around here, and also I'm not exactly on point about how to easily connect non-HP amps to the Susvara. I've seen mentions of this in this thread, but it doesn't look straightforward and requires some non-standard parts if I read things right.
The 1800 is for the integrated Version, the cheaper one for the power amp if I am not mistaken.

And yes you need a Speakertap Adapter cable or Interface Box to connect headphones directly to speakeramps
 
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You are from EU aren't you?
You can find dealers who can sell you K3 power amp for less than 1200 Eur plus speaker tap adapter for another 180 incl shipping if you want the very best silver plated copper.
Flux FA-10 is a dedicated headphone amp built for the likes of Susvaras for 750 Eur new plus shipping and import fees (or used on EU market)
Both solutions offer you way more driving power than your before mentioned solutions and are even cheaper.
I will try this way and report.
Next logical way to step up for me would be better speaker amps (I think Marantz were recommended) or finding a used Solaris tube valve amp as an endgame setup.
 
Sep 12, 2021 at 12:04 AM Post #11,049 of 14,021

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Roksan K3 arrived but neither my Susvaras nor the speaker TAP is here yet.
So could only test M30 to Roksan K3 to Flux FA-10 to Denon AH-D9200 and with this hell of a chain with mixed cables and multi amping I preferred the signature directly out of M30 but that says absolutely nothing of course about the targeted pairing
Look forward to your impressions when the Sus arrives.

Have wondered about Shanling's new products, not for the Sus, but in general.
 
Sep 12, 2021 at 8:42 AM Post #11,050 of 14,021

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Benchmark AHB2's output is 100W into 8 Ohms which is approx. 13 Watts into the 60 Ohms Susvaras. So yes, plenty of power.

However it's not just the power as a quantity. It's also how the power is delivered to the Susvaras which should be a lot of current with a low output impedance. Planar Magnetics need lots of current to sound their best !

Give you a real life example:-
My Chord Mezzo 140 is 120W into 8 Ohms i.e. approx. 16 Watts into the Susvaras. My Susvara's sounded pretty good and definetly not feeling underpowered.
My Hifiman EF1000 is 20W into 35 Ohms i.e. approx. 11.7 Watts into the Susvaras.
Yet the EF1000 makes my Susvaras sing a lot more than my Mezzo 140 does and that is with my Mezzo coupled via my Chord Prima Pre-Amp and direct to my Chord DAVE. And yet the Mezzo 140 has an additional 4 Watts into my Susvaras.
I wonder how the new Enleum HP Amp23R will stack up? On high gain mode it outputs 25 watts.
 
Sep 12, 2021 at 9:20 AM Post #11,051 of 14,021

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I wonder how the new Enleum HP Amp23R will stack up? On high gain mode it outputs 25 watts.
I'm so glad I got my 13R before it went out of production, absolutely love the aesthetic, size, and sound, on the other hand the 23R replacing it looks hella awkward with its tiny feet and fat chassis. They totally went the wrong way with the design, imo ofc...
 
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Sep 12, 2021 at 11:49 AM Post #11,054 of 14,021

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“What’s relevant now is performance the AMP-13R and Susvara delivered as a package. To my ears it’s the closest to sonic perfection to date. Neither I’ve heard a headfi team more exquisite, emotionally loaded, involving, alive, complete and balanced all at once, nor I think I will anytime soon. ‘Works awesome’ indeed…”. Could the repackaged new Enleum AMP-23 best this review??
 
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