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His YouTube channel is ridiculously informative if you want a breakdown on the engineering aspect and how things work. It's great that he shares his knowledge as easily, and openly as he does. Highly qualified with the experience to back it up.
I have no problem with Amir and do appreciate his work and all the info he shares. What I don't like is this closed minded cult that has formed around him that believe a handful of measurements tell you everything you need to know about something as subjective as hifi.

Also, this obsession with distortion figures and SINAD as if we're talking about equipment made to detect heart arrhythmia in a clinical setting. Whoever said distortion is bad when it comes to music? That's a joke to rock music, people who enjoy tube amps, or even precision crafted solid state amplifiers that use harmonic distortion to add character and a bit of warmth to the sound signature.
 
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May 1, 2021 at 2:29 AM Post #8,372 of 13,996

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I don't know much about the forums on AudioScienceReviews. I've spent my time reading and watching Amir's reviews. I've seen him praise a device that measures well and is well priced, but I haven't yet seen a review where he is not recommending based only on a high price tag. Grant it, I've only read a small number of his reviews, and most of those are electronics, not headphones (only the K371 and HE-6). He does have a bias for the Harman Curve, as I do.

I think he's just started reviewing headphones. Here's his current recommend list EQ'd and no EQ.

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Here's his not recommend list.

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There was allegations on line that i saw (sonewhere) claiming that amir was nwavguy but he denied them and explained why he couldn’t be
 
May 1, 2021 at 2:36 AM Post #8,373 of 13,996

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How's this for the top questions on Utopia @thecrow:
"When is the new version of the Utopia coming out?" or " Does my 5 year warranty start over when I get my new driver(s) replaced?"
let me see....sample question:

“Unlike the old utopia that, from what I understand almost everyone says they have had driver failures, (but geez it would be great to know what percentage....let’s start a poll) is there any warranty on the new updated version of utopia that was released recently or am i better off waiting for the utopia 2 that i read somewhere should be released soon”

* note non of that question is true, or based on fact
 
May 1, 2021 at 2:49 AM Post #8,374 of 13,996

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My EF1000 has finally arrived at the FedEx Station in my UK base town of Birmingham after a 7 day world tour of Japan, Alaska & USA (rather than FedEx sending it direct to the UK from China). But due to them not delivering at the weekend and the May Day public holiday in the UK, they are not delivering it to my local Hifiman Dealer until Tuesday 4th May. Then the Dealer has to send it most probably with their preferred Courier (not FedEx) to me, so most probably won't receive it till Wednesday / Thursday next week. The irony of this is the FedEx Station close to Birminghan Airport is only about a 15min drive from my UK base ! :ksc75smile:
 
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Easy to get an adapter to go from XLR to quarter inch or other TRS termination.

I agree with the Crow. His comparison of the Empy’s v Susvara is spot on, though detail in the Empy does open up with the right amp.

The Utopia isn’t really like either. But easy to drive, even out of the balanced headphone out from a decent DAP
 
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My EF1000 has finally arrived at the FedEx Station in my UK base town of Birmingham after a 7 day world tour of Japan, Alaska & USA (rather than FedEx sending it direct to the UK from China). But due to them not delivering at the weekend and the May Day public holiday in the UK, they are not delivering it to my local Hifiman Dealer until Tuesday 4th May. Then the Dealer has to send it most probably with their preferred Courier (not FedEx) to me, so most probably won't receive it till Wednesday / Thursday next week. The irony of this is the FedEx Station close to Birminghan Airport is only about a 15min drive from my UK base ! :ksc75smile:
p.s. I can't personally collect it from my local Hifiman Dealer on Tuesday as I partly (50%) paid for the EF1000 with PayPal, so under PayPal rules the item has to be posted to me.
 
May 1, 2021 at 3:10 AM Post #8,377 of 13,996

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Also the susvaras swapped their headphone connectors from 2.5mm to 3.5mm about a year ago.
you probably would want the 3.5mm connections as they are not as thin and may match up with some future headphones if looking at cables
Thanks, I was wondering about the headphone connector size. I have a Moon Silver Dragon I bought a while back for the HE1000v1 that I was going to re-terminate for the HE1000SE. I guess now I'll get it re-terminated for the Susvara:)
 
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Thanks, I was wondering about the headphone connector size. I have a Moon Silver Dragon I bought a while back for the HE1000v1 that I was going to re-terminate for the HE1000SE. I guess now I'll get it re-terminated for the Susvara:)
There's no indication on the packaging, so no way of knowing which one you will get. I bought my Susvara a month back. Got the 2.5mm connection. If someone with a 3.5mm termination can chime in, regarding any indication on that packaging. Would be helpful for you.
 
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There's no indication on the packaging, so no way of knowing which one you will get. I bought my Susvara a month back. Got the 2.5mm connection. If someone with a 3.5mm termination can chime in, regarding any indication on that packaging. Would be helpful for you.
No indication on the box

but if it recently came from hifiman (ie last 6 months) i think you’ll find it’s 3.5mm

my local store ordered my pair in december 2020
 
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I have no problem with Amir and do appreciate his work and all the info he shares. What I don't like is this closed minded cult that has formed around him that believe a handful of measurements tell you everything you need to know about something as subjective as hifi.

Also, this obsession with distortion figures and SINAD as if we're talking about equipment made to detect heart arrhythmia in a clinical setting. Whoever said distortion is bad when it comes to music? That's a joke to rock music, people who enjoy tube amps, or even precision crafted solid state amplifiers that use harmonic distortion to add character and a bit of warmth to the sound signature.
Sbaf, head-fi are also considered " cults " by some. Perhaps even rightfully as they all tribal in their thinking. I am on all 3 though, as they all offer something unique and I appreciate that. Sbaf are the modders, headfi offers great user experience for problem solving or finding out about updates ( like the 3.5mm on Susvara ) and Audioscience is for the engineering aspect. No need to rag or dump on anyone, who doesn't align with my own thinking. Be informed in whatever aspect you need to, from them and move on.
 
May 1, 2021 at 4:47 AM Post #8,383 of 13,996

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Is this premium ear pads? Shame on you Dekoni!
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May 1, 2021 at 5:13 AM Post #8,385 of 13,996

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Susvara with FSS pads is waaaay better than stock pads, no question of going back to them! Better dynamics, more life, cleaner, more upper midrange, more aggressiveness, soundstage is closer, only bass was slightly less, but that's nothing. Now I have to raise money for Susvara ...
 
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