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My Susvara rig is finally perfected. I went with simple from front to end.

Purpose built Roon streamer (Metrum Ambre); i2s connection to a non-oversampling DAC (Sonnet Morpheus); balanced XLR to a class A power amp (First Watt J2).

I am way beyond pleased with it...

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Morpheus is perfect for SUsvara!
 
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U guys ever get spooked when listening with the susvara? Sometimes there is something like a door opening or plate dropping on the floor on the music track and damn it sounds so real and the imaging/placement is so good, I actually turn my head to look lol. I did it once when my wife was next to me and she thought I was losing it.
 
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My Susvara rig is finally perfected. I went with simple from front to end.

Purpose built Roon streamer (Metrum Ambre); i2s connection to a non-oversampling DAC (Sonnet Morpheus); balanced XLR to a class A power amp (First Watt J2).

I am way beyond pleased with it...

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Wow, J2. that's one cool amp right there. A while ago I saw that FirstWatt F8 (recently announced) is going to be its direct successor?
 
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Wow, J2. that's one cool amp right there. A while ago I saw that FirstWatt F8 (recently announced) is going to be its direct successor?
It is not a direct successor because it is single-ended only. It has some minor circuit and sound advantages according to Nelson, but it didn't seem to be major. J2 is still the only First Watt amp that has a balanced front end.
 
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It is not a direct successor because it is single-ended only. It has some minor circuit and sound advantages according to Nelson, but it didn't seem to be major. J2 is still the only First Watt amp that has a balanced front end.

Thanks for clarification. How is your J2 handling Susvara or anything above say 50 Ohms?
 
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Thanks for clarification. How is your J2 handling Susvara or anything above say 50 Ohms?
I'd say perfectly unless you like to listen at damaging volumes. All the over-hyped fear about hooking up a big honking speaker amp to a Susvara without some kind of resistor box safety net is completely done away with. I have my "normal max" listening volume at about 1/2 rotation of the volume control on the Morpheus. The Morpheus is set at 0dB gain but can be internally switched to 3dB if needed. I don't think it needs any more. When I was using it with a Yggdrasil and a passive pre "normal max" was about 2/3 of available gain. The J2 is acting like a pure voltage source. With the phones running, I can switch a 10 or 20 ohm power resistor in and out and it makes no difference at all in signal level or quality. I don't even hear a click. It is probably about a 3+ watt / channel amp into this load and it doesn't leave me wanting more (or less).
 
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I'd say perfectly unless you like to listen at damaging volumes. All the over-hyped fear about hooking up a big honking speaker amp to a Susvara without some kind of resistor box safety net is completely done away with. I have my "normal max" listening volume at about 1/2 rotation of the volume control on the Morpheus. The Morpheus is set at 0dB gain but can be internally switched to 3dB if needed. I don't think it needs any more. When I was using it with a Yggdrasil and a passive pre "normal max" was about 2/3 of available gain. The J2 is acting like a pure voltage source. With the phones running, I can switch a 10 or 20 ohm power resistor in and out and it makes no difference at all in signal level or quality. I don't even hear a click. It is probably about a 3+ watt / channel amp into this load and it doesn't leave me wanting more (or less).

Highly informative stuff, thank you very much :beerchug:
 
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Any suggestion for Susvara cable upgrade. Looking into Wywire, Plussound X16 and Atlas Zeno.
Several of us have the Cardas Clear headphone cable (me included). It is definitely a good match
 
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Any suggestion for Susvara cable upgrade. Looking into Wywire, Plussound X16 and Atlas Zeno.

I have a Danacable Lazuli Nirvana en route. Pricey but deserving of this HP. I'll report back after proper auditioning.
 
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Anyway, the amp didn't care

Suffice to say, Nelson's stuff is unique :)

Any suggestion for Susvara cable upgrade. Looking into Wywire, Plussound X16 and Atlas Zeno.

You could try FAW's cables. Not crazy expensive but two different conductor types make them very flexible.
 
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Okay, FYI : So I'm an official member of the"a 'fellowship of the Susvarians" since this morning. My unit (the Susvara) landed today, and so far I am listening to it on this system :

Sonore Optical module (optone audio LPS 1.5) ==>> Uptone Etherregen (Paul Hynes SR4T LPS) ==>> Metrum Ac Ambre (I2S) ==>> Sonnet D.Morpheus ==>> Flux Lab FA-10 ==>> Susvara

The Susvara replaced an HekSE in the same chain, and it took me less than one minute of listening to notice the improvements in SQ performance, although I am still a very ardent admirer of the HekSE and wish I have not had to trade it up for the Susvara...
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And no... The FA-10 does not sound at all like a bottle-neck (or "weak link") in the chain. What I am hearing is this particular chain at its most resolving best, with the blackest background I have ever heard, at its most holographic best, and yet at its gentlest-on-the-ear best... And how delicate, musical, intoxicating and ethereal it all sounds, even when I am only a few hours into listening to the Susvara, so "burn-in" is extremely limited so far, and yet I can feel things opening up even more with each hour of listening.

It's too early to go into anymore specifics. I simply cannot speculate as to what more "burn-in" might bring to the table, so I find it more prudent to remain silent now. I can say this much though. The HeKSE to Susvara upgrade sounds like one that has gone in the right direction as far as synergy with the remaining system and outcome in SQ is concerned.

More to come, hence to be continued.
 

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