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HiFiMan Susvara

Discussion in 'High-end Audio Forum' started by ostewart, Jun 18, 2017.
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  1. Matez
    Thanks. I always wanted to have 009, just for the sake of... having it :o2smile: I meant, after all these years this one is hasn't moved one bit and many people still consider it as TOTL. Damn, owning Susvara for several months and now I think about 009 too. This hobby's crazy.
     
  2. gordec
    I think finding a good stat amp is trickier. Carbon, BHSE aren't necessary the best for 009. But yes, when probably driven with a good DAC, 009 is sweet. So detailed and clear but still give you a natural presentation. It's like headfi dream.
     
  3. iFi audio
    We know him. Don't say another word or he'll buy 009 :ksc75smile:
     
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  4. PY034
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  5. astrostar59
    Well the Abyss TC soundstage sounds big to me on my V281. So clearly the Susvara is a current hog, but we know that already.

    I have heard the Susvara a few times now, and I still dig the Abyss TC more. It may be me coming from the 009 and having been starved of both soundstage and bass / dynamics. Maybe the Susvara to my ears is going back towards the 009 direction? Plus it can be the types of music you like as well, that comes into this. And also why I have a soft spot for the LCD4. I can't see me selling that HP either.

    My feeling of owning the 009 and hearing the 009s, hearing my 009 with the BHSE and owning a Carbon amp (not heard the T2 DIY or T2) is it has not moved forwards since it's introduction. I had some great fun with both the 007s and 009s but feel planers are now beyond that level IMO. Is it not just the etherial electrostatic sound, but also the emphasised leading edges, micro details and plankton that grabbed attention. Added to this the lack of body in the mids, weak sub bass and impact, generally a synthetic presentation, these things in the end did it in for me. I didn't buy into the illusion of it, it was always a 'detailed headphone' never a violin or bass guitar.

    The Abyss TC, LCD4 and Susvara individually surpass the realism I got from my Staxes with the Carbon amp. The BHSE was slightly more successful but had to use expensive NOS EL34s IMO to do that, and still wasn't there IMO.

    The LCD4 is almost perfect in every way, the only negative to me is the mid treble dip, and that is possible to EQ most of it out.

    The Susvara is a more even handed signature, but then it needs a lot of current / big amp IMO to really shine at it's best. It is also a bit close to the 009 treble again for me.

    The Abyss TC, and after owning it for only 4 weeks has me sold on it. The early treble peaks in the OG are gone, the bass is still amazing but not as insane as the OG, and the mids are a bit warmer and even handed. Detail and the treble detail is first rate to my ears, enough to know exactly what is going on, but not going into 'stethoscope' mode. The soundstage is cavernous. It is lighter than the LCD4. The fit is bizarre, but you get it after a week or so. Once you get the fit right, heaven awaits. And as the cups 'float' over your ears I don't get too hot or uncomfortable.

    It does so many things so well, it is my favourite headphone. Nearest to perfect to my ears.
     
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  6. jlbrach
    i concur on most everything the above gentleman said...
     
  7. mightyKyn
    how does susvera (properly amp'd) compare to the LCD 4????

    do you get similar meaty sound?
     
  8. jlbrach
    totally different sound, the susvara is a lighter more ethereal experience...
     
  9. astrostar59
    Yes and know IMO. The Susvara has a treble character closer to the 009, and the bas is good but not as solid and dynamic as the LCD4 to my ears. The mids on the LCD4 are really creamy as well, Susvara more neutral. So it is down to personal taste. I prefer the Abyss TC over the Susvara, and the LCD4 as a second phone.
     
  10. astrostar59
    Exactly, 100% agree. But not as floaty as the 009, more body. But not enough body to sub bass for my ears, but that is me....
     
  11. mixman
    Been trying to get into the 1266, but haven’t got there yet, but the Susvara does it for me more so. Maybe it’s a fit thing?
     
  12. iFi audio
    We can easily agree with this. To us it's a great and even all-rounder with no obvious weak spots other than amp hunger (if one sees that as a dwonside of course).
     
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  13. PY034
    Second this.
     
  14. mightyKyn
    Who has driven susvara with a Hugo tt2?

    Powered via the xlr speaker outs do I get enough power? How does this compare to a stand-alone speaker amp ?

    do I just buy a cable that terminates with dual xlr and plug them in to the speaker xlr outs on the tt2?
     
  15. PY034
    You should get a dual 3 pin female xlr to single 4 pin xlr. It will be more than sufficient to power the susvara imo.
     
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