HiFiMan Susvara
Jun 18, 2019 at 4:59 PM Post #2,626 of 11,878

bozebuttons

Co-organized 1st International HF Meet (NY 2006)
Godfather of Babylon
Joined
Mar 29, 2002
Posts
4,018
Likes
221
So you are going “Single Ended” out of Studio to HFC Headphone module to Susvara?

Nice to see another head-fi’er with an HFC Headphone module. I use one in between my Dave and HE1Kse and it is really good!

Yes I go out off the 1/4 jack of the Studio to the HFC headphone module using a patch cable.
I ordered a cable so I can try the HFC module off the speaker terminals of the XA25
 
Jun 18, 2019 at 5:23 PM Post #2,627 of 11,878
Joined
Mar 20, 2013
Posts
10,733
Likes
6,619
Location
Location: HQ in the UK, but spread far and wide.
Even expensive speakers would sound like singing ducks without properly compensating the room acoustic.

That's pure gold. Room acoustic isn't 'just' important, it's key.
 
iFi audio Stay updated on iFi audio at their sponsor profile on Head-Fi.
 
https://www.facebook.com/iFiAudio/ https://twitter.com/ifiaudio https://www.instagram.com/ifiaudio/ https://ifi-audio.com/ info@ifi-audio.com
Jun 18, 2019 at 9:24 PM Post #2,628 of 11,878

QueueCumber

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 9, 2018
Posts
386
Likes
447
Location
NY
That's pure gold. Room acoustic isn't 'just' important, it's key.

It really depends. I’ve run the gamut from having completely dedicated two channel and HT rooms with absorption and/or diffusion everywhere, to just finding the best spots for speakers and running some light diffusion. In my experience, and of course this is different for different people perhaps, it ends up sounding better with excellent speaker placement and very little to no treatments. Absorption in particular for me always takes away from the liveliness of the sound. Lately light diffusion via shelves on either side of the room, and objects on those shelves to break up the first and second other side reflection points has given me the best sound. Some light EQ can take care of the most pernicious room modes, which wall hanging absorption can’t fix anyway. As long as you’re starting with decent room wall lengths (that don’t multiply room mode strength by being too similar in size) in a decent size room, you can get away with very light acoustic treatment both physical and electrical.

Still setting up my McIntosh gear at the new place for the Susvara, but it’s close to being finished. I really like the MHA150 and MCT80 combo, as well as the Auralic Vega for music via PC. I can listen to almost everything in my collection except DVD-A and vinyl, but I have those covered on the speaker setup.

A0ADC2C2-AFF2-484C-9DB7-BB68894D5CB2.jpeg
 
Jun 19, 2019 at 11:44 AM Post #2,629 of 11,878

cladane

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 19, 2013
Posts
627
Likes
96
Location
France
I would add the 25W SET Aries Cerat Genus to that list, in fact to the top of it. IMO it beats the Viva Egoista in all areas...
That’s true but the Egoista isn’t the competitor but the Solista.
To drive headphones, two versions of the Solista are available: one with preamp included (integrated version) and you need a DAC with volume and another one, called Power Solista, which needs an external preamp.

Like said here, Susvara are tuby headphones and Solista is one highly good pairing.
 
Jun 19, 2019 at 4:58 PM Post #2,630 of 11,878
Joined
Mar 20, 2013
Posts
10,733
Likes
6,619
Location
Location: HQ in the UK, but spread far and wide.
It really depends. I’ve run the gamut from having completely dedicated two channel and HT rooms with absorption and/or diffusion everywhere, to just finding the best spots for speakers and running some light diffusion. In my experience, and of course this is different for different people perhaps, it ends up sounding better with excellent speaker placement and very little to no treatments. Absorption in particular for me always takes away from the liveliness of the sound. Lately light diffusion via shelves on either side of the room, and objects on those shelves to break up the first and second other side reflection points has given me the best sound. Some light EQ can take care of the most pernicious room modes, which wall hanging absorption can’t fix anyway. As long as you’re starting with decent room wall lengths (that don’t multiply room mode strength by being too similar in size) in a decent size room, you can get away with very light acoustic treatment both physical and electrical.

Still setting up my McIntosh gear at the new place for the Susvara, but it’s close to being finished. I really like the MHA150 and MCT80 combo, as well as the Auralic Vega for music via PC. I can listen to almost everything in my collection except DVD-A and vinyl, but I have those covered on the speaker setup.


Different rooms have different problems, some are better and some worse. But what we'd like to add is that room treatment doesn't have to be crazy expensive or severe. A thick rug in front of speakers and large QRD diffuser on the wall can tremendously improve many things.
 
iFi audio Stay updated on iFi audio at their sponsor profile on Head-Fi.
 
https://www.facebook.com/iFiAudio/ https://twitter.com/ifiaudio https://www.instagram.com/ifiaudio/ https://ifi-audio.com/ info@ifi-audio.com
Jun 19, 2019 at 6:07 PM Post #2,631 of 11,878

astrostar59

Member of the Trade: Aries Cerat Espana, Auriculares High-End
Banned
Joined
Aug 23, 2012
Posts
2,843
Likes
851
Location
Somewhere v hot
That’s true but the Egoista isn’t the competitor but the Solista.
To drive headphones, two versions of the Solista are available: one with preamp included (integrated version) and you need a DAC with volume and another one, called Power Solista, which needs an external preamp.

Like said here, Susvara are tuby headphones and Solista is one highly good pairing.

Understood. But my view on the Solista is it gets super hot. 4 x 845s and 2 x input tubes in a small space = a lot of heat. Not hear it yet. The Aries Cerat Genus gets barely warm.
 
Last edited:
Jun 19, 2019 at 6:12 PM Post #2,632 of 11,878

ubs28

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Aug 2, 2013
Posts
3,707
Likes
854
That's pure gold. Room acoustic isn't 'just' important, it's key.

No it is not. Nowadays there is software to calibrate the speakers to the room.

And yes, it sounds great.
 
Jun 20, 2019 at 3:29 AM Post #2,634 of 11,878

ubs28

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Aug 2, 2013
Posts
3,707
Likes
854
*IF* you want to use it in the first place.

I had a lady over this week who is 0% into audio and afterwards she also complemented about the music. That is how you know it sounds really good. It basically sounds like a live jazz band playing in the room.

In my untreated living room, it is much better then any headphone system and it comes close enough to a proper high-system setup which is not worth destroying my living room for.

Unless you are a hardcore audiophile that goes for the last 1%, calibrated speakers do the job fine.

Even the bass is super clean, deep, controlled and fast.
 
Jun 20, 2019 at 5:45 PM Post #2,636 of 11,878
Joined
Mar 20, 2013
Posts
10,733
Likes
6,619
Location
Location: HQ in the UK, but spread far and wide.
Unless you are a hardcore audiophile that goes for the last 1%, calibrated speakers do the job fine.

We have nothing against DSP or any other EQ, honestly. We don't say it's better or worse in comparison to the usual 'stuff in yer audio cave' route. It's more about us spreading the word how little it takes to significantly improve most rooms out there.

That’s what she said...

That tickled us :ksc75smile:
 
iFi audio Stay updated on iFi audio at their sponsor profile on Head-Fi.
 
https://www.facebook.com/iFiAudio/ https://twitter.com/ifiaudio https://www.instagram.com/ifiaudio/ https://ifi-audio.com/ info@ifi-audio.com
Jun 20, 2019 at 6:55 PM Post #2,637 of 11,878

Zhanming057

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Oct 31, 2016
Posts
874
Likes
1,647
Location
Boston, MA
For the Europeans here - a cool opportunity to hear the Susvara and Abyss TC on a top-flight speaker amp :) The new ATM300 with the upgrade tubes is really something special, hands-down the best non-monoblock 300b amp that I've ever tried, and not a close contest either.

The picture below is from my visit there in early June - Stefan's Amsterdam-based shop is one of the most impressive showrooms I've been to in the world, and has a wonderful selection of high end head-fi and 2-channel gear (Airtight, Sennheiser, Abyss, Audio Technica, etc.).

Stefan also wanted me to mention that he offers small-group evening audition sessions from 9pm to midnight, with your choice of liquor (Japanese whisky, wine, G&T's), for 150 euros for up to 3 people, deductible on any purchase of 1,000 euros or above. I took advantage of this and while it's not cheap, you get access to an amazing selection of gear, with no pressure to buy, and the opportunity to chat over drinks with Stefan, who is extremely knowledgable and just a great guy to be around with.

MsdHgH1.jpg




d53n5dB.jpg
 
Jun 20, 2019 at 7:13 PM Post #2,638 of 11,878

llamaluv

1000+ Head-Fier
Joined
Nov 23, 2017
Posts
1,177
Likes
1,651
Location
New York City
Somebody put up a Pass Labs INT-150 for sale up on US Audio Mart. These don't go up for sale too often so, y'know, I thought I had better mention it. I know for a fact that it sounds very good with the SR1a and Susvara, don't ask me how.

Also, I wouldn't want to mention that said unit is mine because, y'know, that would be in bad taste...
 
Last edited:
Jun 21, 2019 at 12:20 AM Post #2,640 of 11,878

Zhanming057

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Oct 31, 2016
Posts
874
Likes
1,647
Location
Boston, MA
Interesting 300B w/ 4 drivers? That looks like a Diana Phi in front - very nice:)

It's a dual 300b amp but tuned slightly hotter than both the WA5 and the Manley, to 10+ wpc with the TA-300 tubes.

Airtight has been building one version of the ATM300 or another since the 80s - the one at Headphones Auditions is the latest iteration. I couldn't compare its ability to drive the Susvara directly against older ATM300's but it absolutely blows away the WA5 - which I owned for a while - and makes it both look and sound unpolished and unfocused.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top