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HIFIMAN Releases New Flagship DAP "R2R2000"

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by Edric Li, Dec 22, 2017.
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  1. twister6 Contributor
    I was looking forward to hear R2R2k at CanJam NYC yesterday, but unfortunately the unit I tried only had a few classic rock songs which I'm not familiar with to judge the sound, and whenever I tried to scan to see what other songs are loaded in there, it was telling me there are no songs found. I had my own uSD with me, but I didn't have that pocker tool to open the flash card tray and they didn't have one at the table. It's a cute small device, with a rather buggy fw based on the unit I tested at the show and as other mentioned - a rather 10-year old type of interface. Most of the display screen is non-touch, you only have a few navigation touch buttons at the bottom (the unit I tested had poor touch sensitivity). Also, there is no hw play button, at least I didn't see one.

    I might ask for a loaner to spend more time with it, just to figure out the sound with tracks I'm familiar with. Otherwise without a proper sound evaluation I don't know what to make out of this...
     
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  2. HeadphoneAddict Contributor
    I thought all of their units had Joss’s playlist on the SD card, which has a wide variety of lossless music.

    You could have tried it via Bluetooth with your own music.

    A bulletin board pushpin or small paperclip also works as a Sim card ejector to get the SD card out. Or if it’s not too late you can ask them to connect the unit to a computer via USB-C
     
  3. dhc0329
    I had the same trouble getting the basic function to operate properly in the beginning but once get used to it
    you would know how to maneuver through. I am afraid HFM not being really ready to present this device at the show
    kinda suggests there may not be serious effort in making this to work. Not sure how long they will continue with the firmware
    update. Their mobile app hasn't been updated since its first release with the basic nomadic features.
    No doubt this device has a great potential but they are just not capitalizing it...or just not able to.
     
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  4. audionewbi
    As I'm spending more time with R2R2K i can say that the pentaconn connection and 3.5mm balance sound different, I find the 3.5mm balance to be the more musical sounding, quieter.
     
  5. afreekindazone
    According to your reviews, you often state that you listen at very low volume. Which IMO explain how you're getting more than the average battery life
     
  6. twister6 Contributor
    I assume with iems, right? Didn't see the spec, but balanced output probably has higher power here, perhaps more appropriate for demanding cans rather then iems (hfm megamini was the same story).
     
  7. audionewbi
    Perhaps, I’m currently using the lowest gain setting, sacrificing bass for complete quiet background.
     
  8. dhc0329
    Usually improvement over different choice of cable is not easy to perceive but this time I could surely feel the difference
    between super litz 4.4mm and leo II on solaris and r2r2k combo. Relatively small sound stage was a concern for me with r2r2k
    but leo 2 really opened up side way. Now more holographic than ever with eerie instrument separation. I tried multiple
    iems on r2r2k for best synergy but this could be it.
     
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  9. dhc0329
    Has anyone tested with 512GB sd card on this device? The HFM website states it can only support up to 256GB
    but I am currently using 400GB so you can't really tell until you test it. Wonder what would be the max number of songs
    this device will detect.
     
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  10. audionewbi
    I had the 400 gb card and went back to 128Gb as I found navigation to be a pain. This dap is really for loading your favourite albums and enjoying them, it isn't really for mass transportation of your music, IMO.
     
  11. HeadphoneAddict Contributor
    I’m still mostly using it as a USB jack amp for my MacBook, or via Bluetooth with my iPhone.

    I have a 64 GB memory card in it with my favorite music, but because I’d have to rename all my song files that I dragged over from iTunes to add a the song number at the beginning, I could never convert my whole library for this.

    It’s just easier to use iTunes on the MacBook or iPhone to control my music.

    However it’s worth it, because it just sounds so good with all my Westone and JH Audio IEM, and not just good with my Edition-X or HE-1000se or V1, but also my HD800 and HD600. It’s amazing how good something this small can sound, that I rarely use my $8000 desktop headphone rig.
     
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  12. audionewbi
    I'm utterly fallen in love with my old music. I could have never believed a player of this size could bring about such much joy to me. It totally makes me forget my Hugo and mojo.

    If only I could get a chord mojo+poly concept with pcm R2r2000 sound......
     
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  13. dhc0329
    HFM came back to my inquiry stating that they could only officially support up to 256GB with max songs
    upload of about 5888. A little disappointed but I could probably work with it. I agree on sound quality
    of this device. While my N8 provides the very moisturous, organic warmth, r2r2k gives me joy of pure, unfiltered
    sparkle for every genres. I never get bored between these two devices having a major contrast.

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  14. 360737
    I'd be curious to hear about the $8,000 rig this seems to trump.
     
  15. HeadphoneAddict Contributor
    I’m not saying it blows away an $8K rig so much a s it’s just so much more convenient to use the R2R2K instead of my PS Audio Perfect Wave DAC Mk2 with Eddie Current ZDT amp with upgraded tubes and partial Silver transformers and Nuforce CDP, with ALO audio interconnects and upgraded power cable, etc.

    I can sit in my La-Z-Boy chair, with my MacBook Pro and R2R2K to listen to my HE-1000se, and enjoy it 98% as much as with my big rig. If I need to move into the kitchen or my bedroom I can just pick it up and take it with me without losing a beat.

    Even better, I have 64 GB of lossless music on an SD card, so I can leave the MacBook Pro behind as well.
     
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