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Hifiman HE6-SE

Discussion in 'High-end Audio Forum' started by ufospls2, Aug 10, 2018.
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  1. once
    Nah, you're not the only one. I don't mind inefficient headphones. The fact is, the HE6 is an inefficient headphone - so coming into the thread about the HE6 and complaining that it should be more efficient is like going into a Sennheiser thread and complaining that the headphones leak too much sound so they should be closed instead.

    If you want a "more efficient HE6" - you want a different headphone. And that's fine, there's plenty of options out there for efficient headphones (from Hifiman themselves as well). At the end of the day, it's simple. You want a different headphone. Move along. This one is inefficient.
     
  2. wuwhere Contributor
    The thing I like about the HE-6 is its strong presence in the mids. If you like vocals, which I do, they can sound intimate. It is also very revealing of the source and quality of recording.
     
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  3. phaeton70
    when it first came out, HE-6 was very good, a totl can (if amped well) for a reasonable price. but given the headphones you can buy today in the same (or even less) price range, if this HE-6SE will sound significantly closer to the original HE-6 I would not buy it even at the 1.2k original price.
    so there are two options IMHO: this is a scaled down Susvara, but then the price tag makes no sense (a Susvara Jr cheaper than the oldie HEK??), or this is a strange hybrid using some new technologies (Susvara gold plated membrane?) to resemble somewhat the original HE-6 and squeeze some more cash from the HE6 fanboys (instead of having them buy 2nd hand, which brings no money in Fang's bottomless pocket).
    honestly, I would bet on the latter one. a purely marketing proposal, no added value at all. just playing on the "HE-6" name fro some more cash.
     
  4. protoss

    You are reading into the scale down Susvara driver part too much!

    What I heard and read is He6-SE is definitely a HE-6 version 2. Same sound and everything but more refine and better built. It is almost similar to a STAX 009 and 009S similarities.

    HE6-SE is said to be just as hard to drive and with almost the same sonic quality as the original but more refine. Susvara on the other hand has a complete different sound signature than the original He6.

    HE6-SE

    Specs:

    Weight: 502 grams/17.7 ounces
    Frequency response: 8Hz-65kHz
    Sensitivity: 83.5dB
    Impedance: 50 Ohm

    Accessories included with the HE6se:

    HE Adapter for driving the HE6se
    with a full-size power amplifier
    OCC (single crystal copper) 4-pin XLR cable (2 meters/6 feet)
    OCC XLR to 6.5mm headphone plug adapter (1 meter/3 feet)
    Headphone cable connector
    Spare earpad
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2018
  5. phaeton70
    well, maybe I expressed myself badly, but it's exactly what I meant :wink: : " a strange hybrid using some new technologies (Susvara gold plated membrane?) to resemble somewhat the original HE-6 "
    :)
     
  6. Bonesy Jonesy
    Hi kid vic,
    No your not alone on the running of inefficient headphones from a speaker amp. I'm all for this set-up as it dismisses with a headphone amp thus saving money, space etc. The sound and music presentation I am getting from my hifi system and the He6's is amazing....far far better than my last hi-end system i.e. BHSE with 009's.
     
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  7. eee1111
    Ok

    So everywhere I see this for sale I don’t see this being advertised as limited to 700.

    When it was announced I did hear that. It was kinda the justification for the price.

    Is this still the case or did they really walk that back?
     
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2018
  8. forestitalia
    Neither is it written nowhere that is there any Susvara technology in these. Only the Insidious Dr. Fu-Bian-Manchu knows :sunglasses:
     
  9. ufospls2
    Well, I put in an order just now for a pair of HE6-SE. I really hope I like them :) Will report back with my findings when they arrive!
     
  10. eee1111
    if you don't get a number confirmation that they are limited to 700 like they told us return them and buy a used pair.

    you will thank me
     
  11. ufospls2
    ??? I was going to buy a used pair but there are none available currently. Figured I'd give the new take on them a shot. Why does it matter if its limited to 700 or not? I'm confused.
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2018
  12. P.Car
    Supply and demand curves set the price. If these are a standard production headphone, buyers are more likely to wait and buy them used when the 'frenzy' is over. If they really are limited, then the price will stay high for much longer and may only drop to a certain point and stay there.
     
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  13. kid vic
    Not always true, the limited Stax L300 for instance has been dropping in price on the used market even though its still quite new.
     
  14. bigkef
    I'm just finding out about this "se" version of the HE-6. Pretty smart of Fang..... I'm sure he had to keep producing the magical drivers for these things just to keep up with the blowouts... I'm thankful because I'm on my 3rd pair. Bravo! Since I'm sure these are the SAME drivers repackaged in a lighter housing (why waste $ on RD and design in this case when the original is nearly unmatched given enough high quality juice).. If I had neck issues I guess I'd be interested since I LOVE my original HE-6's. Even the price increase in justified (to keep up with artificial hifi inflation) based on the CRAZY (REAL SPEAKER) digits being spent on headphones over the last few years. I have yet to hear another headphone (regardless of price and HEADPHONE amp applied) smoke (or even match) mine, driven off a speaker amp. -I must admit that I have never heard a $50k headphone rig.. -But I don't feel like I'm missing much.. From what I know, that same 50 (or even much less, including room treatment) can purchase a KILLER 2 Channel rig that will have those phones collecting dust forever more... I digress.. -I am just happy that it doesn't seem like the day when I can no longer get my HE6 drivers repaired is approaching anytime soon....
     
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  15. P.Car
    I contacted Hifiman a few months ago about repairing an original HE-6. They basically luaghed at me saying the product was ancient and they didn't have any extra drivers on hand.

    Don't assume manufacturers actually support products several years after they are discontinued because a lot of them don't.

    Nobody knows if they are using the original driver and HiFiMan will not tell you if they are because that will open them up to repairing old HE-6 cans versus selling new ones.

    Just my experience..
     
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