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Hifiman HE6-SE

Discussion in 'High-end Audio Forum' started by ufospls2, Aug 10, 2018.
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  1. posedown
    Which pads are on the HE-6 SE?
    Can you buy them? I want to try it on my HE-6.

    Thank you
     
  2. GU1DO
    These are the pads you are looking for, it come with HE6se/HE5se , though for me i prefer the old FocusPad

    btw I did order Dekoni Premium Elite Velour & Elite Hybrid pads which i am expecting next few days
     
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  3. GU1DO
    Sure will do , it is the Beyerdynamic T1.2 cable
    First shipment was lost , so they sent me a new one , thats why it took so long
     
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  4. bagwell359
    I may currently have questions about sopranos - but even if those issues remain, it's pretty clear that these are better than my other cans. If you have the juice to run them, get one!
     
  5. bagwell359
    https://headfonics.com/2019/06/hifiman-he6se-review/2/

    Compares the HE-6 4 screw and HE6SE - including switching pads:

    "the 4-screw HE6 which has a 2-3k bump and a 4k dip" vs "the HE6SE dip is fairly short-lived with much more of an upper mids to lower treble elevation from 3-5k"

    the original HE6 has more sub-bass elevation or power

    The HE6 tone is also a touch cooler with more odd-harmonic presence and a harder edge to its instrumental timbre. The older build is perceptibly punchier but is also a little more fatiguing in its stock format due to that leaner timbre and stronger upper treble.You could argue the newer HE6SE is marginally the more forgiving of the two

    I agree with all that.

    Also there being too much output in the high mids/low treble there really isn't much going on back stage, it's pushed forward.
     
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  7. bagwell359
    Oops, my only amp is a Rag 1. When SilverEars gets them for review he has Bryston BHA-1 to drive his he-6 and my he6se
     
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  8. alpovs
    Balanced or single-ended?
     
  9. bagwell359
    Balanced only, SE is a waste on the Rag 1

    Add:

    Ragnarok Balanced Headphones: watts 15 @ 32 ohms, input impedance 0.1 ohms

    Ragnarok Single Ed Headphones: watts 03 @ 32 ohms, input impedance 3.3 ohms
     
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  10. alpovs
    Thanks. I think the same. But people differ. I've seen someone prefer SE for no particular reason. The reason I was asking is that the Rag 1 has an unusually high output impedance on its SE headphone output (3.2 Ohms or so I think). I wanted to hear that you were not using that for low impedance planar magnetics.
     
  11. bagwell359
    hhahaaa...I just added the specs for the Rag 1 above...
     
  12. bagwell359
    Anyone interested in elucidating the differences between the HE-6 & HE6SE ?

    Cable: different, I'd wager the HE-6 in its time used a more expensive cable; HE6SE allows 3.5mm connections not the awful screw ons. Audible differences likely

    headband different: clamping force harder on HE6SE, pads could also lie differently on the head per dimensions of headband. Hard to prove/test but could be audible.

    Pads: different shape, material, fill, also SE came glued on; Clearly audibly different

    Body: different material, different resonances. At least subtle audible differences.

    Damping: The HE-6 came with 1/4 round damping, SE not; medium->big audible differences

    Safety bar not present on HE6SE; probably small resonant issues

    inner facing magnets cut differently, more glue used on HE6SE; they block the direct output of the membrane and I doubt its audibly invisible.

    Magnets same strength?

    Membrane same thickness?

    HE6SE a bit lighter and more comfortable.


    While the connections between these phones is higher then either is to its closet brother product (HE-500) HFM has made - but they are not sonic dupes of each other, not at all.
     
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  13. GU1DO
    I received my second pair with the 699$ promo and this time it doesn't come with the speaker box but it come with the extra pads ,
    oh man these withe the grill layer sound so closed without any depth , i dont know why Hifiman doesn't have other grill options.

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. Articnoise
    Yes that is a mystery.
     
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  15. nahpungnome
    Would be nice if they there in a second set of an open type grill instead of the pads. My guess is that they don't want to deal with warranty related issues due to stuff getting inside.
     
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