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Which pads are on the HE-6 SE?
Can you buy them? I want to try it on my HE-6.
These are the pads you are looking for, it come with HE6se/HE5se , though for me i prefer the old FocusPad
btw I did order Dekoni Premium Elite Velour & Elite Hybrid pads which i am expecting next few days
Sure will do , it is the Beyerdynamic T1.2 cable
First shipment was lost , so they sent me a new one , thats why it took so long
I may currently have questions about sopranos - but even if those issues remain, it's pretty clear that these are better than my other cans. If you have the juice to run them, get one!
Compares the HE-6 4 screw and HE6SE - including switching pads:
"the 4-screw HE6 which has a 2-3k bump and a 4k dip" vs "the HE6SE dip is fairly short-lived with much more of an upper mids to lower treble elevation from 3-5k"
the original HE6 has more sub-bass elevation or power
The HE6 tone is also a touch cooler with more odd-harmonic presence and a harder edge to its instrumental timbre. The older build is perceptibly punchier but is also a little more fatiguing in its stock format due to that leaner timbre and stronger upper treble.You could argue the newer HE6SE is marginally the more forgiving of the two
I agree with all that.
Also there being too much output in the high mids/low treble there really isn't much going on back stage, it's pushed forward.
I was wondering how YOU drive them...
Oops, my only amp is a Rag 1. When SilverEars gets them for review he has Bryston BHA-1 to drive his he-6 and my he6se
Balanced or single-ended?
Balanced only, SE is a waste on the Rag 1
Ragnarok Balanced Headphones: watts 15 @ 32 ohms, input impedance 0.1 ohms
Ragnarok Single Ed Headphones: watts 03 @ 32 ohms, input impedance 3.3 ohms
Thanks. I think the same. But people differ. I've seen someone prefer SE for no particular reason. The reason I was asking is that the Rag 1 has an unusually high output impedance on its SE headphone output (3.2 Ohms or so I think). I wanted to hear that you were not using that for low impedance planar magnetics.
hhahaaa...I just added the specs for the Rag 1 above...
Anyone interested in elucidating the differences between the HE-6 & HE6SE ?
Cable: different, I'd wager the HE-6 in its time used a more expensive cable; HE6SE allows 3.5mm connections not the awful screw ons. Audible differences likely
headband different: clamping force harder on HE6SE, pads could also lie differently on the head per dimensions of headband. Hard to prove/test but could be audible.
Pads: different shape, material, fill, also SE came glued on; Clearly audibly different
Body: different material, different resonances. At least subtle audible differences.
Damping: The HE-6 came with 1/4 round damping, SE not; medium->big audible differences
Safety bar not present on HE6SE; probably small resonant issues
inner facing magnets cut differently, more glue used on HE6SE; they block the direct output of the membrane and I doubt its audibly invisible.
Magnets same strength?
Membrane same thickness?
HE6SE a bit lighter and more comfortable.
While the connections between these phones is higher then either is to its closet brother product (HE-500) HFM has made - but they are not sonic dupes of each other, not at all.
I received my second pair with the 699$ promo and this time it doesn't come with the speaker box but it come with the extra pads ,
oh man these withe the grill layer sound so closed without any depth , i dont know why Hifiman doesn't have other grill options.
Yes that is a mystery.
Would be nice if they there in a second set of an open type grill instead of the pads. My guess is that they don't want to deal with warranty related issues due to stuff getting inside.