I heard them last weekend at a friend’s, and now this last weekend I’ve A/B’d them to my Sundara and my conclusion is that they sound very much like a HE400i.
-HE400se (retains the typical HE400 series downsides):
- wide and airy soundstage that’s lacking center image
- sounds sound big but don’t have much impact
- tonality is kind of grey/dull
- treble has metallic tone no matter how much you EQ it down
- fast but blurry and empty sub bass
-Sundara
- soundstage is slightly narrower (medium-wide) but as a bonus the center image is now extremely present; lateral imaging and instrument separation is better, period
- sounds are more involving/more impactful - drums, guitars and synths are almost tangible
- tonality is on entire new level - colorful and diverse
- treble is very natural, similar to HD560s but even better
- sub bass is well-defined and more textured
Things the HE400se is better at:
- transients and dynamics feel a bit more natural (it could be my Sundara are underperforming with Ifi Zen stack, who knows)
- since they are not as involving, you could listen to them for hours and hours, while the Sundara’s hyperdetailed & textured nature makes them fatiguing after one single hour
- more airiness (not to be confused with spatiality) due to the lack of a proper center image; they almost completely lack the intimacy of the Sundara, which places the singer inside your head
It’s strange how everyone has a vastly different opinion about these headphones, especially when they have to compare them to similar products in their price range. I don’t understand how can anyone can say these are equal to or better than Sundara with a straight face though.
Gavin’s Gadgets on YouTube wrote in a comment on his HE400se first impression, that Sundara is about 20% better across all levels and I wholly agree.
If anything, the HE400se are a better deal than the Sundara, I’ll give them that, but if I had to choose, let’s say I wouldn’t sell a Sundara to get two HE400se, while I’d definitely do the opposite.