[hp4fun]

Seems no one mentioned this so apologize if this is already known -- R10D sounds amazing after rolling ZMF pads!

Depending on your taste, I tried Universal (very open, yet still have lots of bass), Auteur, and BE (more closed feeling). This completely changed my view of R10D, it became my daily hp.

I have LCD 2closed at hand, and in the past, various closed headphone including Stellia and Audivina.

 

[Dalmonegrig]

Seems no one mentioned this so apologize if this is already known -- R10D sounds amazing after rolling ZMF pads!

Depending on your taste, I tried Universal (very open, yet still have lots of bass), Auteur, and BE (more closed feeling). This completely changed my view of R10D, it became my daily hp.

Does anyone have experience using ZMF Pads with R10P (can they be used and what are the changes in the sound signature) or does their use worsen the sound quality?

 

[Ruffra51]

what about the Audivina vs the R10P? which one you would keep or skip? tia

Hi Gintaras and thanks for comment. Nioh must be a mind reader as its my current thoughts. As both Headphones are not yet fully "burnt in" in my system and head, its a bit difficult to declare a winner. Although you can hear they are from the same type of basic tuning they present a somewhat different detailed presentation. R10P is a bit more detailed and punchy base line with a detailed but hot mids and and a bit aggressive top end, while Audivina has a bass presence but not as energetic with quite detailed and elegant mids but can get a bit energetic highs. They suit different Music styles in somewhat different ways. I found the R10P on some 70/80s rock was pretty good where as Acoustic guitar music/Folk/ Ballard or More Modem Jazz seems well suited to the Audivina.. I have tested both headphones using the Tripowin Granvia XLR headphone cable who's basic static equalisation profile seem to suit a range of Hifiman headphones without applying active equalisation. Improves Bass definition and helps to tame the higher frequencies over emphasise.
However the Hifiman headphones have shown up that my Sennheiser HD820's are a weaker link . The 820's are well burnt in now but still display a glassiness in their presentation when the music swells in volume and intensity.

 

[Kukuk]

I am a weak, weak man.

 

[Spawn300Z]

No, this is a good purchase. Was listening to them today. They are easy to drive but will scale. Enjoy

 

[Kukuk]

I was trying to sell off some headphones to free up funds, but decided to jump the gun. I sold 1 of the 6 headphones I was trying to sell. lol

I've been going back and forth between what to expect from them. On one hand, I love how colored the R9 and R10D are, but on the other hand I'm really enjoying the reference-ish sound of the LCD-3 lately. Maybe if they split the difference I'll be super happy.

I'm assuming these use the same cable pinout as the Arya/Sundara and whatnot? Not the R9/R10D one?

 

[Gintaras]

Hi Gintaras and thanks for comment. Nioh must be a mind reader as its my current thoughts. As both Headphones are not yet fully "burnt in" in my system and head, its a bit difficult to declare a winner. Although you can hear they are from the same type of basic tuning they present a somewhat different detailed presentation. R10P is a bit more detailed and punchy base line with a detailed but hot mids and and a bit aggressive top end, while Audivina has a bass presence but not as energetic with quite detailed and elegant mids but can get a bit energetic highs. They suit different Music styles in somewhat different ways. I found the R10P on some 70/80s rock was pretty good where as Acoustic guitar music/Folk/ Ballard or More Modem Jazz seems well suited to the Audivina.. I have tested both headphones using the Tripowin Granvia XLR headphone cable who's basic static equalisation profile seem to suit a range of Hifiman headphones without applying active equalisation. Improves Bass definition and helps to tame the higher frequencies over emphasise.
However the Hifiman headphones have shown up that my Sennheiser HD820's are a weaker link . The 820's are well burnt in now but still display a glassiness in their presentation when the music swells in volume and intensity.

thanks for very clear and precise answer, and i share your findings with Audivina, spot on.
what is good to know that R10P is not the improved version of Audivina, but is a different headphone. this makes Audivina a keeper for me, as i love its unique sound signature and i love all its flaws that make it a beautifully sounding pair of cans. )))

 

[Gintaras]

I bet his answer will be - keeping both

unsurprising, but Audivina is soooo special that i cannot compare it to anything i have heard to date. true, it is genre specific headphone, but it does shine with classical, jazz or acoustic/chamber music like no other. no joke, even Susvara would be more conventional sounding. i call Audivina sound sig "out of head" for a reason.

 

[Kukuk]

Was hoping to read some impressions to hold myself over until my R10Ps get here, so I jumped into the early pages of this thread. Boy, was that a mistake. The first 40-50 pages are some of the most embarrassing stuff on the forum.

So instead of that, the R10D is getting some head time.

Still adore them. I will correct myself on one thing that I had initially thought about them: previously I had thought there was a boost to low-mids that made vocals sound overly thick. Upon further listening, I realize now that it's a resonance. I'm still mostly unbothered by it, but it makes more sense as to why I hear it in some tracks, and not in others. It's a very specific frequency, which I don't have a good enough ear to nail down.

At any rate, still blown away by the energy and lushness of the sound. I find myself super impressed by the size of the soundstage, considering they're a "closed back". I feel like calling them closed-back is a little inaccurate, though. Technically, there's no vents or anything, so they are a closed back, but for all practical purposes they're a semi-open. In fact, while I never owned these at the same time as the Klipsch HP-3, I think those headphones had better isolation. These, and the R9, really remind me more of the old Denon AH-D2000s, which were super popular when I first joined this hobby. Providing no real isolation, but providing that sweet, sweet closed-back bass response. I actually find semi-open designs to be extremely under-rated and under-utilized. Even the HP-3 had excellent bass and soundstage.

 

[Gintaras]

Hifiman makes some of the best sounding headphones, the only big problem with them is QC. Quite a few people experienced a driver failure with Hifiman cans at least once, me including (my he6se died after one year). This was exactly one of the reasons behind my purchase of D8000 Pro instead of the old Susvara since I was not sure for how long my Audivina may last and having only two Hifimans would be too risky.

 

[Hal Rockwell]

OK I've had time to listen to the R10P, unfortunately its a bit of a curates egg, Good in Parts . Let me explain. Transient attack in the Bass is good and following the bass line as good as anything I have heard on a closed back. Mid Range is fair but a bit etch towards forward and treble is fairly forward for my Taste . I Have the Audiavina and the the R10D as well. As a simple comparison the Audiavina does not quite have the bass attack but is less aggressive and a bit easier to listen to in the Mids and Highs . The R10D is fun but a bit slow and not quite in the same league as the Planars ,I find it better with my FIIO M17. I will keep all of them as I do like HIFIMAN products since my early days with the 400i's.
Sorry but my Audio explaining skills are not as good as most of you contributors but I have been in the Headphone hobby since the mid 70's so had my fair share of the experience.

I do have to agree with a previous contributor. It would seem all the closed back Headphones in my collection which also include Meze Liric and Sennheiser Hd820 have some form of limitation in parts of the frequency response compared to Open Backs. It is what it is. Just enjoy your Journey.
Just in case your interested My main Listening is on Meze Elite with a aftermarket Hybrid cable, Hifiman 1000 SE with aftermarket Occ cable and Stax SR007 with a SRM 717 energiser.
Probably my Expectations on closed backs are never going to be satisfied.

It doesn't have to be "it is what it is" kind of thing cause there are objectively better closed-backs out there to be had such as DCA E3 and Stealth.

 

[Spawn300Z]

I might agree with the Stealth but not the E3 IMHO.

 

[Jdiobus]

I have The R10P and very satisfied with, but a friend offers me The HE6SE V2.
Somebody compares this two headphones?
I know The R10P is easy to drive, and HE6SE V2 very dificult, but am interested in if are complementary or The same thing?

 

[Slim1970]

I have The R10P and very satisfied with, but a friend offers me The HE6SE V2.
Somebody compares this two headphones?
I know The R10P is easy to drive, and HE6SE V2 very dificult, but am interested in if are complementary or The same thing?

They are two completely different sounding and performing headphones, get both

 

[Ruffra51]

I have The R10P and very satisfied with, but a friend offers me The HE6SE V2.
Somebody compares this two headphones?
I know The R10P is easy to drive, and HE6SE V2 very dificult, but am interested in if are complementary or The same thing?

Yes they are a completely different sound signature. I have the He6Se not v2. I changed the pads to all leather . Occ copper cable silver plated and open style grill mod. If you have a powerful enough Amp they are a really good listen. Certainly don't have some of the issues that the R10P higher frequency seems to have.