[nioh]

sometimes that does not work, silver is not always optimal.

By the way the HE-R10P stock cable is unusable for me. Build quality is good but it’s rough and makes loud noises as it rubs against you. It’s also rigid and not flexible at all so it keeps the weird shape from the box.

I’m using the Audivina cable which is perfect !

I ordered a few days ago -r10p. Unfortunately, it is not available in Europe, although the website says in stock. I hope they will replenish the stock quickly. It will be interesting to see how they perform, I can't wait. I've had lcd-xc, zmf verite, r-10s and quite a few other closed headphones.

Don’t give up. They said the same for me but I got a shipping notification 2 days later and another 2 days later (total 4 days) it was here in Germany. Yours should be same day delivery because it ships from Poland.

 

[Spawn300Z]

I’m listening to my HE-R10P Stealths using the Danacable Lazuli Nirvana what a pairing. I will have to try the my Lazuli Rhapsody but it’s on my bedroom setup.

 

[Jdiobus]

By the way the HE-R10P stock cable is unusable for me. Build quality is good but it’s rough and makes loud noises as it rubs against you. It’s also rigid and not flexible at all so it keeps the weird shape from the box.

I’m using the Audivina cable which is perfect !



Don’t give up. They said the same for me but I got a shipping notification 2 days later and another 2 days later (total 4 days) it was here in Germany. Yours should be same day delivery because it ships from Poland.

Totally agree, The 3 stock cables are good quality but so rigid that are unusable.
I am using a Tripowin GranVia working wonderfully

 

[Hal Rockwell]

I listen with my ears, not with my eyes.

@Gintaras Another one here who has no clue how Audivina actually sounds linking graphs and stupid Youtube videos lol. This never ends .. sigh.

You're entitled to your opinion to say what sounds good to you. What you can't do is state that Audivina is "Balanced." In order for Audivina to sound balanced to you, your ear canal must accommodate all those peaks and thoughts in the frequency response, which I'm sure it's not unless you have some kind of rare hearing disability.

Audivina is an objectively bad headphone. The simplest way to spot a bad audio product is to see how many reviews it has. Trusted reviewers don't review bad products for two reasons: they can't bury a product because it jeopardizes their relationships with manufacturers that provide them with review samples, and they can't call a bad product good because it hurts their credibility.

I don't own the Audivina and have never listened to it. If the price falls to around $400, I'll consider buying it to experience exactly how bad it is and to use its parts for various DIY projects. This is the same reason I purchased the HE-R10D when it went on discount. This headphone is bad and even a gun to my head won't change my mind.

 

[nioh]

You're entitled to your opinion to say what sounds good to you. What you can't do is state that Audivina is "Balanced." In order for Audivina to sound balanced to you, your ear canal must accommodate all those peaks and thoughts in the frequency response, which I'm sure it's not unless you have some kind of rare hearing disability.

Audivina is an objectively bad headphone. The simplest way to spot a bad audio product is to see how many reviews it has. Trusted reviewers don't review bad products for two reasons: they can't bury a product because it jeopardizes their relationships with manufacturers that provide them with review samples, and they can't call a bad product good because it hurts their credibility.

I don't own the Audivina and have never listened to it. If the price falls to around $400, I'll consider buying it to experience exactly how bad it is and to use its parts for various DIY projects. This is the same reason I purchased the HE-R10D when it went on discount. This headphone is bad and even a gun to my head won't change my mind.

I'll answer you in a simple one-liner.
If you don't own the headphones and haven't heard them then don't go around saying stupid things because you read some reviews and watched some youtube videos because it doesn't help anyone

 

[nioh]

I’m listening to my HE-R10P Stealths using the Danacable Lazuli Nirvana what a pairing. I will have to try the my Lazuli Rhapsody but it’s on my bedroom setup.

Lol those cables cost more than the headphones themselves. I'm not sure I can hear such a huge difference to justify that price. I'd rather buy a more expensive headphones like the Susvara Unveiled.

 

[Hal Rockwell]

I'll answer you in a simple one-liner.
If you don't own the headphones and haven't heard them then don't go around saying stupid things because you read some reviews and watched some youtube videos because it doesn't help anyone

I don't read reviews. I don't need to because I know how to read a graph. This is not how "balanced" headphones measure and sound. It doesn't mean it can't sound good to you, which is purely subjective and doesn't translate from you to another person.

 

[trellus]

I don't read reviews. I don't need to because I know how to read a graph. This is not how "balanced" headphones measure and sound. It doesn't mean it can't sound good to you, which is purely subjective and doesn't translate from you to another person.

Truly — it is subjective.

I can grok — now owning the Audivina and hearing them for myself — why they were panned by a lot of the reviewers, even those who didn’t formally review them but have mentioned having heard them and how wrong they sounded, because they definitely sounded “different” from many of my other headphones, and that’s not surprising, given how this is reflected objectively in the measurements.

However, I find them very enjoyable, and the very point of me keeping them is because they are different. But they certainly don’t sound bad to me at all, just a different take. There are definitely headphones that do sound too different to be enjoyed, like the Andover PM-50, which just were tuned so strangely that I do not pick them up to listen to them.

 

[Gintaras]

I don't read reviews. I don't need to because I know how to read a graph. This is not how "balanced" headphones measure and sound. It doesn't mean it can't sound good to you, which is purely subjective and doesn't translate from you to another person.

Mr "I know all the secrets but don't care about reality", let me tell you one simple thing. If you have no experience in something, be humble, ask, discuss, but never try to impose your opinion on others in a somewhat derogatory manner.

As for the rest, I personally listen to music, no graphics of any kind. If in doubt, I sample, listen, compare the sound of headphones with expensive front-end devices or live concerts I've been to. There is no holy grail in this business, so everyone finds what they need. You enjoy your graphics, I enjoy my music, and everyone is happy.

As for Audivina, yes, there are not many reviews, and some of them, in my opinion, are downright bad.

However, I assume you are familiar with the FinalAudio D8000 Pro, which has received rave reviews everywhere and is compared to the Susvara, ZMF Caldera or Abyss 1266TC. I assume you would agree that the D8000 Pro are great headphones?
Let me tell you, I have both the D8000 Pro and Audivina and I rack my brain every day thinking about selling one of them. Guess which is most likely to be sold? And you want to know why? No graphics attached.

 

[nioh]

Mr "I know all the secrets but don't care about reality", let me tell you one simple thing. If you have no experience in something, be humble, ask, discuss, but never try to impose your opinion on others in a somewhat derogatory manner.

As for the rest, I personally listen to music, no graphics of any kind. If in doubt, I sample, listen, compare the sound of headphones with expensive front-end devices or live concerts I've been to. There is no holy grail in this business, so everyone finds what they need. You enjoy your graphics, I enjoy my music, and everyone is happy.

As for Audivina, yes, there are not many reviews, and some of them, in my opinion, are downright bad.

However, I assume you are familiar with the FinalAudio D8000 Pro, which has received rave reviews everywhere and is compared to the Susvara, ZMF Caldera or Abyss 1266TC. I assume you would agree that the D8000 Pro are great headphones?
Let me tell you, I have both the D8000 Pro and Audivina and I rack my brain every day thinking about selling one of them. Guess which is most likely to be sold? And you want to know why? No graphics attached.

Don’t waste your time with him, it’s not worth it. I stopped reacting after he said that Audivina sounds good to me because I might have a rare hearing disability

Besides this is not the Audivina thread so let’s get back to the HE-R10P !

 

[Hal Rockwell]

Mr "I know all the secrets but don't care about reality", let me tell you one simple thing. If you have no experience in something, be humble, ask, discuss, but never try to impose your opinion on others in a somewhat derogatory manner.

As for the rest, I personally listen to music, no graphics of any kind. If in doubt, I sample, listen, compare the sound of headphones with expensive front-end devices or live concerts I've been to. There is no holy grail in this business, so everyone finds what they need. You enjoy your graphics, I enjoy my music, and everyone is happy.

As for Audivina, yes, there are not many reviews, and some of them, in my opinion, are downright bad.

However, I assume you are familiar with the FinalAudio D8000 Pro, which has received rave reviews everywhere and is compared to the Susvara, ZMF Caldera or Abyss 1266TC. I assume you would agree that the D8000 Pro are great headphones?
Let me tell you, I have both the D8000 Pro and Audivina and I rack my brain every day thinking about selling one of them. Guess which is most likely to be sold? And you want to know why? No graphics attached.

Dude, graphs are reality—or at least physics and science. I don't care about your listening experience and what sounds good to you, and that's why I didn't address this. I wrote that there's no chance Audivina is a balanced-sounding headphone, cause that's not how balanced headphones measure. Moreover, balanced-sounding headphones are the most popular headphones out there, so if Audivina was one, it would have gotten rave reviews all over.

I didn't have the chance to listen to D8000 Pro or Caldera. I dislike ZMF for personal reasons and will never touch their products again. I consider Susvara and 1266 to be lousy headphones for their asking price.

Don’t waste your time with him, it’s not worth it. I stopped reacting after he said that Audivina sounds good to me because I might have a rare hearing disability

Besides this is not the Audivina thread so let’s get back to the HE-R10P !

You should work on your reading comprehension, cause I never dismissed your experience with Audivina. I only addressed your statement regarding it being balanced.

 

[ToddRaymond]

I dislike ZMF for personal reasons and will never touch their products again.

I know this isn't the a thread about ZMF headphones, but would you mind explaining why? (Feel free to PM if you prefer.) I'm looking at picking up some closed back 'phones soon. With the recent reductions / sales going on with the Audivina and HE-R10P Stealth happening, but the the lack of more than a few outlier super positive impressions, I have been reading up on the Caldera Closed, and it looks promising.

 

[Kukuk]

Dumped a bunch of my Hifimans to the FS board. If I sell them all I'm gonna grab a pair of R10Ps. That's a pretty big "if", though. lol

Used market seems rough at the moment. I can't get anyone to even kick the tires on my Sendy Aivas.

 

[Gintaras]

I know this isn't the a thread about ZMF headphones, but would you mind explaining why? (Feel free to PM if you prefer.) I'm looking at picking up some closed back 'phones soon. With the recent reductions / sales going on with the Audivina and HE-R10P Stealth happening, but the the lack of more than a few outlier super positive impressions, I have been reading up on the Caldera Closed, and it looks promising.

ZMF headphones are really good, I tested several including the closed Bokeh, Atrium and Caldera (the latter both open and closed versions).
I personally liked the open ones better than the closed ones. The Caldera's were very good and more detailed, but I liked the Atrium's for some magic in them and amazing slam, they were very musical headphones that make you smile.
I still ended up preferring FinalAudio D8000Pro, but if not for them, the Caldera or Atrium could have been my second choice.

 

[ddlo]

i got my he-10p 2 days ago after waiting for hifiman to assembly and deliver the new lot to the dealers. it's freshly made, brand new and sealed from hifiman!!!

the clearance price is so good that i placed my order right away even i had just ordered a pair of diana TC (also at great discount) a few hours ago than.

far less impressed than i first heard susvara but still quite decently sounded. at this price it's just a steal. the built quality and package are all decent and high quality considering this is a hifiman product (which has been known for suspectable QC issues). the hardcover booklet showing the story/design of r10p is impressive.

the 3 pairs of cable are not that great - 3.5mm, 6.3mm and xlr are not a great combo to me. i think 4.4mm instead of 6.3mm should be offered (and a 6.3-to-3.5mm adaptor in the package).

this is far more efficient than susvara. i was using fiio r9 listening to diana tc before hooking up r10p. i turned down vol from 75 to 55 at high gain! noticeably less impactful bass than diana TC but not really paper thin like awkt that i never get used to. very smooth sounding and not offensive at all. for a closed back, the soundstage couldn't compete with some good openbacks e.g. sus, he1000se, solitaire p-se, etc.