= HiFiMAN HE-560 Impressions & Discussion Thread =
Mar 28, 2014 at 11:32 AM Post #318 of 21,098

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If you have the HE-6 and are having issues with sibilance, a better source and amp will help.  But the cheapest fix will be the new ear pads.  I have tried them with the HE-6 and it helps take a slight edge off the treble harshness of some bad recordings.  jerg inspired design on these pads really make a difference there.  That said, I've never really had an issue with the treble of the HE-6, in fact it's one of my favorite features.


I had tried a lot of DAC, AMP and finally stay with eximus dp1 and ef6. I think they're pretty good and satisfy me enough. In my system most headphones that have the best details are also have sibilance problems (HD800, PS1000, HE6) except Abyss which has incredible details without sibilance. May be it's because Abyss produce less distortion. I think LCD3 and X have no sibilance because they are less details and more forgive.

If he560 has less distortion than He6 (and ps1000, hd800), it should has less sibilance.
 
Mar 28, 2014 at 11:32 AM Post #319 of 21,098

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Meanwhile im getting people saying the O2 is more than enough for the HE4...

It is abysmal with the HE-500, I cant imagine it sounding good with the HE4.
 
   
Don't mess with the o2 crowd. They will punch you and take your lunch money. Already happened to me. 

Ha. "you must not like neutrality".
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On topic, I'd venture a guess and say the 560 would pair up best with warmish amps?

Audio-GD stuff sounds ideal to me... always. Except the sabre ES9018 equipped ones which I found very neutral. Hope they got the Wolfson dac setups back in stock.
 
Mar 28, 2014 at 11:43 AM Post #321 of 21,098

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I had tried a lot of DAC, AMP and finally stay with eximus dp1 and ef6. I think they're pretty good and satisfy me enough. In my system most headphones that have the best details are also have sibilance problems (HD800, PS1000, HE6) except Abyss which has incredible details without sibilance. May be it's because Abyss produce less distortion. I think LCD3 and X have no sibilance because they are less details and more forgive.

If he560 has less distortion than He6 (and ps1000, hd800), it should has less sibilance.

It's not that simple...sibilance is a complicated issue, it's due to a combination of upper mids / treble FR, distortion, ringing (which is largely independent of distortion), and the music. Just having more or less distortion isn't enough to determine anything.
 
Mar 28, 2014 at 11:49 AM Post #322 of 21,098

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  It is abysmal with the HE-500, I cant imagine it sounding good with the HE4.
 
Ha. "you must not like neutrality".
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Mar 28, 2014 at 11:56 AM Post #323 of 21,098

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Any of the reviewers heard the lcd-x? If so, any thoughts. From what I've read, seems like this might be a great comparison. Minus the hefty weight and price of the x
 
Mar 28, 2014 at 12:02 PM Post #324 of 21,098

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Frank, I don't have any experience with the WA5 but you said it's a pretty transparent amp. Do you happen to have any tubey amps with a good amount of current?
I'm actually very excited to hear about a pairing like this. Too bad dubstepgirl went solid state because she couldn't drive her beloved 6 out of her even more beloved tubes. This might be her headphone.
 
Mar 28, 2014 at 12:03 PM Post #325 of 21,098

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Jerg, you havent yet commented on the HE-560 vs the HE-400 which you own. How does they're bass compare in terms of speed, tightness, thump, extensions, and finally you're preference. Also other aspects like soundstage, air, mids and the like.
 
I'm strongly considering either the HE-560 or HE-400i, but I'm not sure the HE-560's tonal balance is to my liking. I'm hoping the HE-400i will be a little darker than the HE-560 and have bass closer to the HE-400 in terms of presence.
 
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I had tried a lot of DAC, AMP and finally stay with eximus dp1 and ef6. I think they're pretty good and satisfy me enough. In my system most headphones that have the best details are also have sibilance problems (HD800, PS1000, HE6) except Abyss which has incredible details without sibilance. May be it's because Abyss produce less distortion. I think LCD3 and X have no sibilance because they are less details and more forgive.

If he560 has less distortion than He6 (and ps1000, hd800), it should has less sibilance.

 
The Abyss was measured before, and it does have significantly more distortion than the LCD-3 and especially the HE-6 particularly in the bass measurements.
 
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On topic, I'd venture a guess and say the 560 would pair up best with warmish amps?

Audio-GD stuff sounds ideal to me... always. Except the sabre ES9018 equipped ones which I found very neutral. Hope they got the Wolfson dac setups back in stock.

 Walter has rather sharp wires, though 
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Mar 28, 2014 at 12:42 PM Post #328 of 21,098

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Don't mess with the o2 crowd. They will punch you and take your lunch money. Already happened to me. 

 
Yeah, I noticed. All I get is numbers and data. THEY NUMBERS... THEY MEAN EVERYTHING.

 
   
This is their secret go-to trap card. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
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I'm not a huge fan of the O2. Its a fine little amp, etc. But I'm not sure who has the bigger ax to grind this time, guys. 
 
Mar 28, 2014 at 1:05 PM Post #329 of 21,098

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  Jerg, you havent yet commented on the HE-560 vs the HE-400 which you own. How does they're bass compare in terms of speed, tightness, thump, extensions, and finally you're preference. Also other aspects like soundstage, air, mids and the like.
 
I'm strongly considering either the HE-560 or HE-400i, but I'm not sure the HE-560's tonal balance is to my liking. I'm hoping the HE-400i will be a little darker than the HE-560 and have bass closer to the HE-400 in terms of presence.

Well, it obviously has to be different enough [much like the 560 is] from the 560.
Remember they're discontinuing practically all their other full-size planars [minus the HE-6].
You can probably count on the 400i being noticeably different  in comparison with the 560.
 
I am not sure either but since I have pre-ordered the 560, I don't have the luxury of doubting my decisions anymore :D
 
But I'll be still very curious about the 400i and what'll comes out of it...
 

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