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Hifiman he-400i Impressions and Discussion

Discussion in 'Headphones (full-size)' started by MattTCG, Jan 8, 2014.
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  1. DavidA
    The genre of preference has a lot of influence in the choice of headphone.  For EDM the HE400i is one of the best choices but if acoustic jazz or blues then the HD650 might be a better choice or for classical then the HD700 would be my choice
     
  2. GirgleMirt
    I had the chance to compare the Sennheiser HD650, 800 and 800s, and all 3 were connect to a 3000$ sennheiser amp, hdvd-800 I think.  Anyway, the 650 were not close to the 800 line...  The clarity/detail/musicality was just not there, the 650s sounded so muddy and bloated in comparison...  Absolute let down. Now, it's just a pure impression as I didn't have the 400i to compare, and was listening to their music, but although some have said that the 400i is comparable to the 650 in terms of clarity/detail, I find that hard to believe... 
     
    As I mentioned though, the amp powered 3 headphones at once, so maybe the 650s weren't driven properly or something, but my quick impression would be that the 400i sound quality is a bit closer to the 800 line than the 650...  Like if the 800 line was the reference at 10/10, and the 650 was a 6/10, the 400i would likely be like a 7.5 or 8/10.  I'd say maybe the 650 would be more comparable to AKG's Q701, the AKG is no slouch, but vs the 400i it's just not as transparent/fast/detailed...  Bit more 'lowfi', which is more how the 650 sounded to me...
     
    Also heard the Beyerdynamic T1p, and it was driven by a small portable fiio or something, it also failed to impress, I'd say the amp was likely the culprit as their pricepoint is quite higher than the 400i, but yeah, it was ok/nice, just not impressive when thinking of it vs 400i.  The Senn 800 line was amazing though...
     
    Also heard the Hifiman 560, driven by some ridiculous Chord amp, with the silly name of 'Dave' it looks like (not kidding!!!  http://www.whathifi.com/chord/dave/review) and wow now THAT was something.  Smooth sound, detailed, nothing bad stood out, very pleasant sound!  But then, I'm seeing 899$US for 560 where I got the 400i for 240$US...  Definitely a sweet setup though, hard to tell which of headphone or amp added some magic, but my guess is that both were doing a great job.  Definitely a good step up vs 400i, but then who knows how much better the 400i would also have sounded on that crazy dac/amp...!
     
    The Sennheiser Orpheus HE-1 was also fun to listen to.  I almost bought it, but then realized it would not fit on my desk, also they only had it in white soo, I had to leave it there... [​IMG] 
     
  3. AT Khan

    Very interesting take. Good thing I got the He400i despite having made it in the HD6XX drop. I use both interchangeably, though yes, I think I'm tilting more towards the He400i. With my ifi Micro iDSD, I don't think I'm missing out much on the action. Really loving what these cans do...

    I guess we're in good hands... [​IMG] 
     
  4. musedesign
    Hi All,
      I am interested in buying a pair of HE-400i.  So far the best price I can find is $449.  Does anyone know of a lower price or a Hifiman discount code ?  Thank you ! 
     
  5. dc430

    Saw it on official Hifiman Taobao store going for less than USD200 last week. Might worth a look
     
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  6. bogde
    it's $399 on headamp.com, with free international shipping, if that helps.
     
  7. musedesign
    Hi dc430,
      Thank you !
     
    Just checked the Taobao Hifiman store HE-400i $175 with shipping.  Have you ordered through Taobao Hifiman ?  Seems like a great price, thank you ! 
     
  8. musedesign
    Dear bogde,
      Thank you !
     
  9. drwlf
    @musedesign there's been pretty decent deals in eBay from reputable vendors, Beachcamera/BHPhotovideo methinks, you could check that out as well.
     
  10. dc430
    I didn't, got mine from Hifiman eBay store last Black Friday. And found the Taobao store a week later and cheaper than I paid for mine. Keep checking their store for the pleather replacement pad but no luck so far. Can't find any HM5 pads here in Hong Kong either
     
  11. Selfish Android
    I have a question, have any of you tried the HM5 angled hybrid earpads on the HE400i's, i am afraid of a treble roll off, what about soundstage and comfort?
     
  12. drwlf
    Well, there's this: http://www.head-fi.org/t/711824/hifiman-he-560-impressions-discussion-thread/17025#post_12886234
     
  13. vincik
    hi, i own these headphones for two weeks and use them with Mojo. It is huge step up from my previous closed portables audio technica es10 + fiio x5. I think there is still room for improvement though. Especially in bass departement. It kinda lacks that deep kick i was used to. I also find them (at least with Mojo) to be quite sibilant and bit harsh in upper mids. I dont like EQ, im purist, so my only hope is that they will improve with burn in. Let's keep discussion whether burn in is real or not aside. Any opinions from burn in believers on how he400i changes over time?
     
    PS: i read in manual, that Hifiman recommends 150h of continuous burn-in - do they mean 150 hours of burn in without any pause?
     
    PPS: what track do you recommend for burn in and what volume?
     
    thanks
     
  14. W4RW0LF47
    At least in my personal experience, my HE400i sounded better when they hit around 100 hours of use. I reset the timer on foobar so when I compared my HE400i with my friends out of the box HE400i y could celarly hear the difference.

    The difference I could noticed was in the low frequencies. They sound better, fuller I would say.

    Of course we can argue maybe it was because I get used to the planar sound. But my comparisons with my friend's new headphones was notice.

    Saludos

    Enviado desde mi Nexus 6 mediante Tapatalk
     
  15. waflet
    Hideeho
    I have only used the stock & hybrid angled pads, but that is a very accurate description of what I have heard. I believe I might have to try some other pads to see how big of a difference they make.
     
     
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