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Sep 4, 2021 at 11:34 PM Post #2 of 12
kessekwot said:
hello i recently saw the review of ananda https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/hifiman-ananda-review-headphone.22281/ . there so much distortion it literally effects freq response and makes it look rough. every hifiman from 1000 lineup has roughness in the graph and wonder how it compares to ananda .
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Okay two things.

1) Notice how he mentions a gap in mounting the headphone preventing a complete seal? Then he notes that the gap does affect the bass, but hand waves it away as unimportant. Then he proceeds to get alarming and unexpected levels of distortion in the bass. Yeah, it's very likely that's all related. Distortion measurements are difficult enough to do right without picking up external influences on the measurements, but then the add in a poor fit on the measuring mount and the problem is exacerbated. Likewise with the measurement of resonances that are, again, in the bass.

2) The alarming distortion he gets occurs at a brain melting 114 db. At that loudness OSHA lists a safe exposure time of just 45 seconds before the onset of hearing damage. That is a completely ridiculous level at which to measure, let alone judge, a headphone's quality, as it does not reflect the listening practices of most (or hopefully any) listeners. What is not shown is a more typical listening level, say my own preferred level of <84db. But, even at 94 db, the distortion levels are much more normal, even with the mounting gap.

These two things are good examples of why ASR's measurements tend to get less fanfare over here on Head-Fi. His methodology has problems to the point that some people accuse him of manipulating measurements to fit a preconceived notion or desired outcome. I won't weigh in on that, but do approach ASR measurements with some healthy skepticism.
 
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Sep 5, 2021 at 12:09 AM Post #3 of 12
phthora said:
Okay two things.

1) Notice how he mentions a gap in mounting the headphone preventing a complete seal? Then he notes that the gap does affect the bass, but hand waves it away as unimportant. Then he proceeds to get alarming and unexpected levels of distortion in the bass. Yeah, it's very likely that's all related. Distortion measurements are difficult enough to do right without picking up external influences on the measurements, but then the add in a poor fit on the measuring mount and the problem is exacerbated. Likewise with the measurement of resonances that are, again, in the bass.

2) The alarming distortion he gets occurs at a brain melting 114 db. At that loudness OSHA lists a safe exposure time of just 45 seconds before the onset of hearing damage. That is a completely ridiculous level at which to measure, let alone judge, a headphone's quality, as it does not reflect the listening practices of most (or hopefully any) listeners. What is not shown is a more typical listening level, say my own preferred level of >84db. But, even at 94 db, the distortion levels are much more normal, even with the mounting gap.

These two things are good examples of why ASR's measurements tend to get less fanfare over here on Head-Fi. His methodology has problems to the point that some people accuse him of manipulating measurements to fit a preconceived notion or desired outcome. I won't weigh in on that, but do approach ASR measurements with some healthy skepticism.
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Hello thanks for reply. I looked at crin notes and 1990oretory and mountains look very similar
 
Sep 5, 2021 at 12:42 AM Post #4 of 12
Sep 5, 2021 at 12:54 AM Post #7 of 12
trellus said:
That's a very nice assortment. What has you interested in the Ananda's?
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i don't, it was my first headphone, i got rid of it because of channel imbalance . very nasty impression for $700 and newbie who begun to set foot on this hobby. actually i am happy it happened. might be the reason why i never settled and tried dozen of headphones.
 
May 17, 2022 at 8:58 AM Post #11 of 12
phthora said:
Okay two things.

1) Notice how he mentions a gap in mounting the headphone preventing a complete seal? Then he notes that the gap does affect the bass, but hand waves it away as unimportant. Then he proceeds to get alarming and unexpected levels of distortion in the bass. Yeah, it's very likely that's all related. Distortion measurements are difficult enough to do right without picking up external influences on the measurements, but then the add in a poor fit on the measuring mount and the problem is exacerbated. Likewise with the measurement of resonances that are, again, in the bass.

2) The alarming distortion he gets occurs at a brain melting 114 db. At that loudness OSHA lists a safe exposure time of just 45 seconds before the onset of hearing damage. That is a completely ridiculous level at which to measure, let alone judge, a headphone's quality, as it does not reflect the listening practices of most (or hopefully any) listeners. What is not shown is a more typical listening level, say my own preferred level of <84db. But, even at 94 db, the distortion levels are much more normal, even with the mounting gap.

These two things are good examples of why ASR's measurements tend to get less fanfare over here on Head-Fi. His methodology has problems to the point that some people accuse him of manipulating measurements to fit a preconceived notion or desired outcome. I won't weigh in on that, but do approach ASR measurements with some healthy skepticism.
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After buying and trying the Ananda, that review struck me as something not reliable. My hunch seems was correct and your post has quite a nice explanation to why. Thanks!
 
Aug 23, 2022 at 10:45 AM Post #12 of 12
Hi can someone explain what are the differences between Hifiman Ananda, Ananda stealth and Ananda V2? I wanted to return my edition xs and get the V2 instead. I could not find it anywhere.
 
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