[warlock110]

i have not bought any expensive headphone, this is the 1st time it's going over 50 bucks so help me out lol, i'll use it to monitor some home made stuff, so i guess i want accuracy and not overemphaisize on anything.

here's the lineup i'm looking at, please also consider the price, as i'm looking for the cheapest possible.

Equation RP-21: 90 bucks, i'm not sure if i can get it cheaper, have not look, and seems to be popular around here, also have not read alot about it.

Sennheiser HD 25 SP1: 90 bucks, also popular, also do not know much about it, and don't know if i can get it cheaper.

Akg K 240 S: 100 bucks, this one seems nice, some people reported bass problem, but i think it's got good reviews over all, have not been able to find anywhere that's cheaper than 100.

Sennheiser HD-280: 90 bucks, this one seems pretty nice too, but it's reviews are very mix, some said it's crap some said it's great, no idea how flat it can sound, i found some place that sell them for 70, so it means i just lost 20 bucks, but i have to order from 8thstreet.com because i'm also buying a mic, and they have it for 70 less than anywhere else.

Grado SR80: the Grado brand seems popular around here, this one is 85 new or 75 open box. no clue on the price of this one if it's good or not.

Sennheiser HD 215: clueless on this one too, but 80 bucks, not sure if that's cheap.

Akg K 301 XTRA: another 70 bucks headphone, i'll go read reviews on it, not many have it on here.

Akg K81DJ: 65 bucks, mix reviews on here, i'll have to go check the price again see if it's good.


PS: shipping is free, and i normally uses my HD-201, that thing doesn't seems to produce accurate sound, and it's very dark, so that's why i wanna prop for something a little better, i'll plug these straight into my sound card (audigy 4 pro), i do not have a headphone amp, but i have a mic amp that can take 1/4" plugs, is that usable as headphone amp?

 

[qazwsx]

I would not use any of the following suggestions ofr monitoring: HD25SP, K240S, K81DJ.

If they don't have to be closed, without a doubt I'd pick up a Sennheiser eH350. They don't have a ton of bass but their mids and highs are unusually well-represented and accurate and are very detailed. They MSRP is $130 and their average price is $80 but I've seen them as low as 50 bucks. Really a steal IMO.

If they do have to be closed look into the Sennheiser HD280 or Sony V6. Probably the former if you plan on listening to music with it. The latter if you don't.

 

[xinoxide]

whats is your max budget so i can make a good recommendation, and what kind of "home made stuff", if its production monitoring your talking about, monitoring with phones isnt the way to go at all, although i do use them for picking highhats and arranging drum sequences.

 

[warlock110]

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Originally Posted by xinoxide /img/forum/go_quote.gif whats is your max budget so i can make a good recommendation, and what kind of "home made stuff", if its production monitoring your talking about, monitoring with phones isnt the way to go at all, although i do use them for picking highhats and arranging drum sequences.

max budget 100, i know the thing about not monitoring with headphone, but with 100 bucks what else can i do, it's just some basic vocal stuff. and since i don't even have the room treated, i just need something with accurate sounding so i can EQ the tracks right.

So the equation RP21 is out? most people recommend the Senn 280 or the sony V6, unforunately i can't get them @ a low price, and i feel like i get rip off. they are hovering at around 90 and i know for a fact they go for around 70 or so.

the AKG 240S is a monitoring headphone though, it's not good?

 

[qazwsx]

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Originally Posted by warlock110 /img/forum/go_quote.gif max budget 100, i know the thing about not monitoring with headphone, but with 100 bucks what else can i do, it's just some basic vocal stuff. and since i don't even have the room treated, i just need something with accurate sounding so i can EQ the tracks right. So the equation RP21 is out? most people recommend the Senn 280 or the sony V6, unforunately i can't get them @ a low price, and i feel like i get rip off. they are hovering at around 90 and i know for a fact they go for around 70 or so. the AKG 240S is a monitoring headphone though, it's not good?

I know you can get the HD280's for 80 and the V6's for as low as 60, both are inside your budget. Do you not live in the U.S.?

And I highly recommend avoiding the K240S. It's way too boomy and flavored to be used as a monitoring headphone.

 

[warlock110]

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Originally Posted by qazwsx /img/forum/go_quote.gif I know you can get the HD280's for 80 and the V6's for as low as 60, both are inside your budget. Do you not live in the U.S.? And I highly recommend avoiding the K240S. It's way too boomy and flavored to be used as a monitoring headphone.

i actually can, but i need to place an order @ 8thstreetmusic so i can buy my mic (CAD 177) and get freeshipping, or else shipping is 20 bucks. The V6 is pretty cheap, and so is the HD280, unfortunately 8thstreet refuse to price match, they want 90 for it. the sony they carry is the 7206 version instead of the V6, but they're the same as far as i know.

 

[Sine]

The Audio-Technica ATH-M40fs is not well-liked on Head-fi for being too clinical, but I use it for monitoring for that exact reason - it's flat as a pancake. Plus, you don't need an amp to drive it. See what you think.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Headphone.html

 

[spectaculartimes]

What was formerly the Sony V6 is now the MDR7506. It's been a standard in the recording industry for decades. $90.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...56&src=3WFRWXX

 

[F107plus5]

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Originally Posted by spectaculartimes /img/forum/go_quote.gif What was formerly the Sony V6 is now the MDR7506. It's been a standard in the recording industry for decades. $90. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...56&src=3WFRWXX

I've still got to do some digging into Sony history, but somewhere during or around the time the old manufacturing facility was shutting down and the new one got on line, the thing about the 7506 replacing the V6 got started.

...or something like that. At any rate; I believe there are still the two models, the MDR-V6 and the "Professional" 7506 with the gold plug and "maybe" some minor internal wiring differences.

I'm still digging!

 

[warlock110]

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Originally Posted by F107plus5 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I've still got to do some digging into Sony history, but somewhere during or around the time the old manufacturing facility was shutting down and the new one got on line, the thing about the 7506 replacing the V6 got started. ...or something like that. At any rate; I believe there are still the two models, the MDR-V6 and the "Professional" 7506 with the gold plug and "maybe" some minor internal wiring differences. I'm still digging!

they're exactly the same thing, u can get the V6 for cheaper, the 7506 is aways hovering @ 100, the V6 however is dipping @ 60, no brainer there. The thing that is bothering me is that the mic i wanna buy is about 80 bucks cheaper than anywhere else (including musician friends and other retail stores), add in the freeshipping and i think i might be saving 100 bucks, the draw back is i have to spend 150 and since i always wanted a decent pair of headphone i figure i drop one at the same store, the ones i listed are price similarly to other stores, so i won't get rip off too much, the HD280 and the Sony 7506 however is about 20 bucks over priced.

 

[spectaculartimes]

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Originally Posted by F107plus5 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I believe there are still the two models, the MDR-V6 and the "Professional" 7506 with the gold plug and "maybe" some minor internal wiring differences. I'm still digging!

My understanding was the the 7506 is closest in lineage to the original V6, but DEFINITELY set me straight on the matter when you find out.

Anyway...

warlock110: if the MDR-V6 is available, you can consider that as well. the difference as far as you're concerned (because both are good monitors) is that the V6 completely covers the ears (the pads press against your head around the ears) while the V7506's pad rest around the perimeter of your ears. Which is more comfortable is a matter of opinion - I prefer that the V6 covers the ears, but the V7506 is lighter.

To convolute matters further, there is the MDR-V600, which is a bit lower in quality and price, but nevertheless my band recorded and mixed an entire album using it.

And one note on monitoring in general: do your mixing with your monitor headphones, but if you're not having your recordings mastered, also listen to what you record with inferior devices (your stereo speakers, ipod earbuds, etc.) because that's what other people will use to hear it.

 

[Fitz]

The K240S has an unnatural sound that doesn't make it as good for monitoring as the older versions like K240M or K240DF. I actually measured a flatter frequency response on the K240S than the K240M, but it definitely doesn't sound as accurate when you listen to them. The K240M is a good all-around monitoring phone, while the K240DF works even better if you can afford to lose a little bass. Both can be had used for well under $100, but they're discontinued so new ones are harder to find.

 

[warlock110]

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Originally Posted by spectaculartimes /img/forum/go_quote.gif My understanding was the the 7506 is closest in lineage to the original V6, but DEFINITELY set me straight on the matter when you find out. Anyway... warlock110: if the MDR-V6 is available, you can consider that as well. the difference as far as you're concerned (because both are good monitors) is that the V6 completely covers the ears (the pads press against your head around the ears) while the V7506's pad rest around the perimeter of your ears. Which is more comfortable is a matter of opinion - I prefer that the V6 covers the ears, but the V7506 is lighter. To convolute matters further, there is the MDR-V600, which is a bit lower in quality and price, but nevertheless my band recorded and mixed an entire album using it. And one note on monitoring in general: do your mixing with your monitor headphones, but if you're not having your recordings mastered, also listen to what you record with inferior devices (your stereo speakers, ipod earbuds, etc.) because that's what other people will use to hear it.

yeah, that's what i do lol, i figure i have to get something that people are used to listen to, i tried my mix with the HD201 and it sounded ok, i put it on ipod headphone and it sounded so bad with tons of high, so i had to went back and redo it to get some where in the middle. it's horrible that way the HD201 is no where near accurate and so is the ipod earphone, so i figure i have to get something accurate enough to get decent quality, it would probably save me time later.

I'm leaning toward the Equation PR21, i read the thread on it and it sounded like it's a good fit for monitoring headphone, the price is about right too.

 

[Mr_Happy]

The Sony 7506 and the V6 are the same headphone, the only difference being that the 7506 has a gold plated connector. Someone here actually has a V6 with a V6 labeled cup on one side and a 7506 labeled cup on the other side. I would avoid the V600.

 

[rockbottom]

The cheaper Grados may not be so good as a monitoring solution. You might want to consider HD280 Professional, Sony V6 (7506) also seems to be a good way to go.