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Originally Posted by )v(ajin_R_
i dont really hear a recessed mid range either, but could it be dependant on the source its coming from? But then again I really haven't heard anything else high end besides my ltd's, the hd600 and 650's (with amp)... i cant remember them very well, since i would probably need to A/B them... maybe slwiser's head-fi meet will clear things up a bit , also does EQing help at all, if it doesnt why wouldnt it?
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Thanks for all the links slwiser (I got your PM too) - it'll take me a while to digest them all.
I think I should take this opportunity to clarify what I mean by 'recessed' - just like other broad terms (musicality, smoothness, harshness, etc) it can be read in different ways and I don't want anyone getting the wrong impression.
First off, all my listening was done on PCDPs - Panasonic CT579v, CT700 and Sony DNE320. Yes, that's not the
ideal solution, but the reason I bought the LTDs was so I could use them transportably on a cheap source. I listened to them up to the 150 hour burn-in mark, because to my ears the sound stopped changing at around ~80 hours.
Ironically, burn-in actually made the mids worse to my ears. At the beginning, they were well integrated with the rest of the frequency spectrum (most of the changes early on were in the bass response). But towards the end, as everything settled down, voices suddenly shrank back into space. Their volume was slightly lower than the rest of the instruments, which wasn't so bad in itself (the KSC75 is a bit like this). The real problem for me was spatially, voices seemed to be coming from a layer behind the rest of the instruments. That's what I mean when I say 'recessed'.
Now that I think about it, I'm not sure it was definitely "the mids", since I never really heard the same effect with guitars. I suspect is has something to do with interactions between the angled driver and closed design that seemed to diminish any sound that's mixed evenly between left and right channels. I have no way of backing this claim up or testing it again, but to me it seemed like the voices (which tend to be centered in the mix) were a lot less prominent than stuff coming from exclusively the left and right channels. The few times I listened to vocals with a hard left/right pan (Beatles), I remember thinking they were much better and closer in presentation. So maybe it was more of a 'recessed center soundstage' than 'recessed mids'.
Please take my description with a grain of salt, since it's been more than a month since I last heard the LTD (personally, I still feel like I can 'hear' the sound fresh in my mind, but I fully acknowledge that I am a fallible humanoid
) Anyone else hear the same thing?