[Retorterous]

I need some advice:

I currently own a pair of Beyer DT770 Pros (about 20 hrs burn-in) and am not very happy with the sound. I like bass, but to me they sound muddy and dull. Will this change? I do like their comfort and isolation however.

I've read about the D2000 and like what I hear sound-wise. But what of their isolation? How good are they?

I want to be able to listen to my headphones at high volume and not distract others ie at work, uni, public transport etc.

Can anybody tell me their opinions?

 

[kurt6652]

are you listening to them with an amp? I have the dt770/80 and they definitely need an amp to sound the best. I also found that mine sound better now that they have 100+ hours on them, but they sounded pretty good new,right out of the box. I preferred them to my sr225,s, which I have since sold. The sr225 did sound better with acoustical guitar to me, but overall I like the beyers. The Denons from what I have read would be a step up, but they are also more expensive.

 

[Retorterous]

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Originally Posted by kurt6652 /img/forum/go_quote.gif are you listening to them with an amp? I have the dt770/80 and they definitely need an amp to sound the best. I also found that mine sound better now that they have 100+ hours on them, but they sounded pretty good new also. I preferred the to my sr225,s.

No, but an amp is on the way. I was thinking a Headsix. What do you think? Does the amp enhance overall sound qulaity or mainly just loudness?

I will give a bit more time before i decide definitely. It's just that I was listening to my mates HD595s and they were infinitely clearer. The difference was amazing. It shocked me.

 

[unknown123]

I haven't heard the 770/80 but if you have 595's to compare the d2000 to, in my opinion the 595 is no match, especially after the d2k is burned in well. I had and have sold my 595's to my brother so I have compared them side by side, and the denons win hands down.

 

[Grey Massacre]

unknown123,

Let the headphone burn for 120 hours. There is a NOTICEABLE improvement. At 20 hours they sound really muffed, bloated, the bass is not right.

I had a 770 pro and I am using Darth's (modded 770's) I noticed the same thing on both headphones.

Charles

 

[Retorterous]

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Originally Posted by unknown123 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I haven't heard the 770/80 but if you have 595's to compare the d2000 to, in my opinion the 595 is no match, especially after the d2k is burned in well. I had and have sold my 595's to my brother so I have compared them side by side, and the denons win hands down.

That is encouraging. I listen to a hell of a lot of electronic music (my reason for buying the DT770s) and my only criticism of the HD595s was the lack of bass and shrillness at high volume.

Have you listened to much electronic on the D2000s?

 

[tdogzthmn]

I had the DT770s and I also found the sound lacking in my opinion. So I got a pair of D2000s and im not looking back.

 

[unknown123]

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Originally Posted by Grey Massacre /img/forum/go_quote.gif unknown123, Let the headphone burn for 120 hours. There is a NOTICEABLE improvement. At 20 hours they sound really muffed, bloated, the bass is not right. I had a 770 pro and I am using Darth's (modded 770's) I noticed the same thing on both headphones. Charles

If you are talking about either the 595 or d200 both are past 120 hours and i did notice a difference with the d2000, if you are talking about the 770/80, like I said I have never heard them.

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Originally Posted by Retorterous /img/forum/go_quote.gif That is encouraging. I listen to a hell of a lot of electronic music (my reason for buying the DT770s) and my only criticism of the HD595s was the lack of bass and shrillness at high volume. Have you listened to much electronic on the D2000s?

I have listened to all of the albums from The Faint, and a couple other electronic bands, and I think whatever is thrown at these things sounds great.

 

[kokohore]

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Originally Posted by Retorterous /img/forum/go_quote.gif I need some advice: I currently own a pair of Beyer DT770 Pros (about 20 hrs burn-in) and am not very happy with the sound. I like bass, but to me they sound muddy and dull. Will this change? I do like their comfort and isolation however. I've read about the D2000 and like what I hear sound-wise. But what of their isolation? How good are they?

When I got D5000 (said to be similar to D2000) , came from the dt770, I thought it was a large overall improvement in SQ.
However, unfortunately the seal of D5000 is much worse than dt770 (putting on D5000s and not playing music, I can hear and understand what the TV people talking...).

 

[Retorterous]

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Originally Posted by tdogzthmn /img/forum/go_quote.gif I had the DT770s and I also found the sound lacking in my opinion. So I got a pair of D2000s and im not looking back.

How is the sound insulation? I'm very happy with the DT770s insulation. I can listen to LOUD music and not distract others.

Would you say the same about the D2000s?

 

[arteom]

You know I don't know much about distracting others personally (from what I read they are pretty good at keeping sound in), but you will be able to hear everyone else really easy. Isolation=poor on denons. Sound quality is very nice, I listen to mostly electronic from techno to electro to house to idm to downtempo to whatever. They handle everything nicely. Do get an amp, also search for the markl mod. Oh and they need 150+ hours burn in to get to their fullest potential.

 

[MaZa]

Denons most likely seal sound from leaking out well enough, being closed and all. but their isolation from outside noises is known to be bad. DT770 is bit muddy can due to strooong bass quantity and bit recessed mids. It gives a muddy feeling.

 

[DDF]

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Originally Posted by Retorterous /img/forum/go_quote.gif How is the sound insulation? I'm very happy with the DT770s insulation. I can listen to LOUD music and not distract others. Would you say the same about the D2000s?

I have an old pair of DT770s and a newer D2000. The D2000 is poor at isolating from outside sounds, but does not leak much sound out. Tried in the office once, and no one could hear them, but my wife can hear them a bit in bed, even at low levels.

The DT770 is excellent at isolating outside sounds, and definitely better than D2000 at stopping sound from leaking out.

 

[lmilhan]

I have owned and listened to both extensively.

The D2000s bury the DT770s in every conceivable way IMO.

The isolation is mediocre for the D2000s, but it is unlikely that you will disturb others around you with sound leakage, unless you are listening at very dangerous volume levels. As an added bonus, the D2000s are supremely comfortable. The most comfy headphones I have ever owned. The D2000s are fantastic, and based on your requirements, you will no doubt love them much more than the DT770s.

 

[DDF]

Comfort and sound of the d200s do bury the 770, but there are two areas they fall a bit short IME. They allow much more sound to leak in. For me, this is good, so I can hear the kids at night, or coworkers entering my office. For public transport, he'll have a much greater chance of hearing more road noise, no question. If he keeps it cranked up, he may not notice.

They do also leak more sound out. Given his requirement:

"I want to be able to listen to my headphones at high volume and not distract others ie at work, uni, public transport etc"

He'll probably be OK, but its definitely leaking more than a 770, and his coworkers may notice if its a quiet environment. Solution would be to turn them down, another good thing!