headphones that benefit the MOST from a balanced setup?

Sep 23, 2007 at 3:40 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 31

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which headphones in your guys' opinions benefit alot from being recabled to balanced and run off of a balanced amp? i listen to a lot of rock and electronic type music, but im open to whatever suggestions. just looking around to see what other peoples experience in the area has been...
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Sep 23, 2007 at 3:44 AM Post #2 of 31
every headphone that i have listened to has benefited when balanced.
 
Sep 23, 2007 at 3:46 AM Post #3 of 31
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every headphone that i have listened to has benefited when balanced.


same here .... but the senn 650 is the one that improved the most to me.
 
Sep 23, 2007 at 4:02 AM Post #4 of 31
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Sep 23, 2007 at 4:14 AM Post #5 of 31
yesh ive heard a LOT of good things about balanced 650s....i might just hafta pick myself up a pair. what im working with right now is a pair of balanced dt990s 250ohm the '05 ones. i find them pretty good generally for what i like to listen to, but im seriously trying to find something that would be a good compliment to them, that is what the heart of this thread truly is.
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Sep 23, 2007 at 4:29 AM Post #6 of 31
maybe a balanced pair of grados.
 
Sep 23, 2007 at 4:55 AM Post #7 of 31
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same here .... but the senn 650 is the one that improved the most to me.


this is a commonly made statement but i am starting to believe that all headphones benefit equally from going balanced. the improvements are always the same - better separation, greater detail, better bass response, and an overall fuller sound. i think that the senns more so than other headphones just require better and more powerful amplification before they respond and demonstrate their full potential and it so happens that most Bal amps are also just very good amps.
 
Sep 23, 2007 at 5:03 AM Post #8 of 31
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which headphones in your guys' opinions benefit alot from being recabled to balanced and run off of a balanced amp? i listen to a lot of rock and electronic type music, but im open to whatever suggestions. just looking around to see what other peoples experience in the area has been...
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The 650's Excellent.
The Sony SA5000 very good.
The 340's?? I will hold judgment until I get a decent amp that can drive them.
 
Sep 23, 2007 at 5:05 AM Post #9 of 31
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this is a commonly made statement but i am starting to believe that all headphones benefit equally from going balanced. the improvements are always the same - better separation, greater detail, better bass response, and an overall fuller sound. i think that the senns more so than other headphones just require better and more powerful amplification before they respond and demonstrate their full potential and it so happens that most Bal amps are also just very good amps.


But Ultrasone said their phones don't benefit going balanced
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Sep 23, 2007 at 5:25 AM Post #10 of 31
grados are an interesting suggestion indeed...to be honest ive always been tempted into buying a pair to see what i really think of them...but i never know which model to go for! any suggestions on what a good one to look into further for balancing might be?
 
Sep 23, 2007 at 5:26 AM Post #11 of 31
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But Ultrasone said their phones don't benefit going balanced
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then they are crappy headphones. i'm sure ibuds would still sound bad balanced. i have seen posts by competent members who said that the Ed.9 greatly improved by going balanced. good headphones will respond accordingly.

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grados are an interesting suggestion indeed...to be honest ive always been tempted into buying a pair to see what i really think of them...but i never know which model to go for! any suggestions on what a good one to look into further for balancing might be?


if you are going to spend the money to go balanced, then you probably want to get one of the higher end models.
 
Sep 23, 2007 at 7:04 AM Post #12 of 31
Don't every headphone benefit from being runned fully balanced?
At least I don't see a single reason why they should not...
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Sep 23, 2007 at 2:46 PM Post #13 of 31
what you guys think about trying out a 325i balanced?
 
Sep 23, 2007 at 2:57 PM Post #14 of 31
All I know is that both my headphones—R10s and ED9s—benefited greatly from going balanced: increased resolution, more defined low end, improved separation, etc. To quote the Monkees, I’m a believer.
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Sep 23, 2007 at 3:11 PM Post #15 of 31
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this is a commonly made statement but i am starting to believe that all headphones benefit equally from going balanced. the improvements are always the same - better separation, greater detail, better bass response, and an overall fuller sound. i think that the senns more so than other headphones just require better and more powerful amplification before they respond and demonstrate their full potential and it so happens that most Bal amps are also just very good amps.


IMO not all headphones benefit from balanced, ones benefit, other marginally benefit, and other sound about the same, different soundstage maybe, but the sound is practically the same...

HD6XX is the best example of a headphone that benefits the most from the balanced topology, mainly due to the fact that uses slow thick mylar diaphragms that need the extra control over them...

Fast drivers are less prone to any improvements...IME the ED9 loose some of the bass slam while balanced...for example...I prefer it SE out of my RPX33...

Keep in mind also that the comparison has to be done while using equivalent amps, single ended and balanced...Balanced amps tend to be more expensive and better overall designs, so it is not strange that you will hear an improvement, but not due to the balanced topology, but to the difference in amps designs...having one amp for both also is not an indication as sometimes there are compromises that needs to be done in order to have both worlds in the same case, and it is not hard to imagine that always the manufacturers benefit the balanced over the SE...It is a hard question to answer, and it is hard to test accurately in the cases or marginal improvements...
 

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