[LTUCCI1924]

HI ALL: It has been suggested that I wait one week before I post on any new cans and I think that this is a good idea. If any one just has to know info sooner they can pm me for any info sooner.

 

[plainsong]

Don't let it get you down...people are just too fickle. First they beg for your first impressions, pleading that they understand they are just first impressions.... then turn on you when you reach your final decision.

You have a right to like the headphones you like. The funny thing is, what should it matter to others what your favorite phones are... it's not supposed to be a popularity contest.

I guess you could either put on your flameproof suit and keep those early reviews coming, or you could do what your suggesting, wait a while. I can well see your point. I just think it's wrong that people know you're gonna be among the first to get the new cans, beg you for first impressions, then crucify you when you give them what they want. I say to those people, get your own phones and hear for yourself.

 

[john_jcb]

Lou,

I think it is a good idea to wait for a time before posting any review. The mind is a funny thing, what you hear on the first day is different than what you hear after a week. It also gives your natural enthusiasm a chance to settle down a bit. I do look forward to reading about what you hear.

 

[bangraman]

As I said elsewhere it might be a good idea to draft your initial impressions, then add them later. I find many phones do sound better during the intiial 'NEW PHONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' stage and then your opinions gradually settle down. It also helps to have other phones of similar quality to compare with because your mind I think starts making up false memories of phones you've had but sold/disposed.

 

[williamgoody]

I think everyone need to realize is that when someone posts their opinions about something, it's exactly that, one person's opinion. It is NOT fact. It's someones opinion on something we wish to evaluate and decide upon for ourselves. Not everyone's tastes are the same. The best thing I think we could do is familiarize ourselves with the general tastes of a reviewer and compare that to their impressions of something, and how that could affect how we might see something.

I've had mixed feelings about this, but this is a community where we all share with each other. To ask someone not to contribute is wrong and really goes against what this place is about. More information, even if it can be dismissed, is better than less or none at all.

 

[joelongwood]

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...this is a community where we all share with each other. To ask someone not to contribute is wrong and really goes against what this place is about. More information, even if it can be dismissed, is better than less or none at all.

Very well put, Bill. I couldn't agree more.

 

[lini]

Lou: Don't you dare to do that!

Actually, everyone should know that initial impressions should be taken with a grain of salt - especially if there is an explicit warning from the author, as it happened to be the case with your latest impressions about the new portable Sennheisers. I like to read about people's initial experiences, because these usually contain some information about burn-in as well as more insight in the reviewing style of an author, when compared to the following impressions. And you are especially welcome, Lou, because you convey emotion as well: From your posts one can tell, whether a product is fun. That's nice, I enjoy it! So please refrain from your plan - especially because you will be flooded with individual questions then, anyway...

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini

 

[kelly]

I still say: BUYER BEWARE.

I like the fact that there aren't content restrictions on Head-Fi and that anyone can basically post whatever they want whenever they want.

The only thing at stake is credibility. If, for example, you post a review of something the day you get it, then say, change your mind a week later, or maybe, change your mind after other people have chimed in to disagree, eventually... many people will stop taking you seriously. Which is fine, right? Their perogative and all that.

I make mistakes, myself. Frequently. I've had to go back and say, "You know, I was wrong when I said ___" on Head-Fi. It happens. Hopefully some error rate is factored in when anyone reads my posts. But by the same token, do I hit more often than other people? That plays a role in whether people take my posts seriously.

Then you have taste, in general. There are some people who make excellent arguments, articulate well thought out posts, and still... just like totally different things than I do. I keep that in mind when I read their stuff and you should too.

I realize that the average newbie is faced with not knowing which reviews to "trust" but so be it. You want to increase your odds, use the search engine and spend some time doing the research. You believe the first thing you read, you deserve what you get. Buyer beware.

 

[Zanth]

I think a nice listening time is recommended but not absolute. I can, right off the bat, tell whether I will like a signature sound or not. I can't necessarily go into great detail about every aspect of the phone before I become familiar with it. If a signature sound only truly appears after 100 hours of burn-in then perhaps that is the time to start posting.

However, if you want to post and say that after your first trial you like them or dislike them, really who is to complain? If after some burn-in the sound changes, you posting that the change is for better or worse is an asset. IT gives people something to look for when cooking up their cans. Some may audition some cans in a store dislike them but not realize they were right out of the box and after a few hours or days or weeks the sound will change to something they may or may not prefer.

Keep posting Lou. Post what you feel and what you hear. Let others decide whether they should take it to heart or not.

 

[wallijonn]

Lou, can you do an objective review? I know that you have other headphones, so I would like to see a review not only comparing how different headphones sound, but how, say, 5 different pieces of music, or songs (which are very demanding in their playback), sound on each headphone.

I've heard the W2002 and know some of it's shortcomings. If your review blows away the W2002 and you tell me that all gendres of music sound equally well, that it has no distorions, no frequencies which are more prominent than any other, that the bass goes down to 1 HZ, that it can driven to crystal clear clarity from a $10 pcdp, that there is no sound difference between a class A amp or a $50 DVD player, then I will reject your review out of hand.

If on the other hand you get together with 4 other members in your area, and each has a DT770, HD600, ETY and Sony MDR-3000, (etc.), and you come up with a review by consensus, then I will readily enbrace the review.

I, of course, support you in this endeavour, and feel that your review should have been posted three days ago, as you've had plenty of time to listen to them. The question will be if you can produce a review that doesn't sound like an advertisment for the A1000.

 

[MacDEF]

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Originally posted by williamgoody To ask someone not to contribute is wrong and really goes against what this place is about.

No one's being asked not to contribute. People are simly suggesting that you "live with" your new headphones for a bit before criticizing them or singing their praises. I make it a rule to not post impressions about new headphones or audio products until I've listened to them quite a bit. People get anxious, but I'd rather give them reliable information.

 

[williamgoody]

Who says first impressions aren't reliable? Some may find that information invaluable, along with how the sound may mature as time goes on. I'm sorry but too much info about something to me can't be a bad thing.

 

[Duncan]

I don't know who has criticised Lou here... but I think the case in point was the PX100/200 phones where in one post they were the best thing ever getting 10/10... and then in the next post, four hours later, they were trash ~ sold on, with the KSC-35s getting 15/10...

This in its own right isn't bad, but might be construed as misleading... maybe that is what the 'offending' person / people were referring to... same with the AT EM7s or the AT100ti... that they have had their praises highly sung, only to be sold on very quickly...

I for one value Lous opinions, just as I do anyone elses who posts here... maybe we should all just read into things a little less deeply??!

 

[williamgoody]

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for one value Lous opinions, just as I do anyone elses who posts here... maybe we should all just read into things a little less deeply??!

I agree 100%. This really is the point I was trying to make.

Thanks Duncan.

 

[Rizumu]

I think everyone's excited when they get a pair of new phones...when I get my new headphones I know I wouldn't like to be asked not to post about them for a few weeks. Posting first and later impressions can be indicative of how much burn in has an effect on a headphone's sound, and they are fun to read.

I like reading your posts LTUCCI, even though I was a bit let down that despite the initial 10/10 reaction you didn't like them more than the Koss phones. I still think the PX200s would have a purpose to serve for me, mainly that of cheap, portable isolation, and hope to try them out for myself.

The point is, when it comes down to it, you're still going to decide whether a pair of phones are right for you based on how they sound to YOU. These are just one person's opinions, and I don't think that person should have to refrain from stating them simply because of the possibility that someone will rush out and buy a pair of headphones based solely on first impressions.