Headphile CPU vs. Standard

Jul 7, 2004 at 12:25 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 11

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I've decided to go with headphile interconnects, but I don't know whether to get the Standard Silvers or CPU Silvers. There's no difference in price because of the extra I'd pay for Priority Mail with the Standards.

So, is there any real difference between these two except for in the shielding? What advantage does the extra shielding provide? Would it help since it's right next to two power cords? Is there any advantage to going with the Standard Series? Thanks!
 
Jul 7, 2004 at 9:57 PM Post #2 of 11
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Originally Posted by tennisets
I've decided to go with headphile interconnects, but I don't know whether to get the Standard Silvers or CPU Silvers. There's no difference in price because of the extra I'd pay for Priority Mail with the Standards.

So, is there any real difference between these two except for in the shielding? What advantage does the extra shielding provide? Would it help since it's right next to two power cords? Is there any advantage to going with the Standard Series? Thanks!



I had these exact same questions a few weeks ago when i got my headphile cables. here's what larry had to say to me about it:

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Originally Posted by Larry at headphile.com
The difference between Standards and CPU is the latter is fully shielded as well as twisted pair, which both use for noise cancellation. A shielded cable will slow down the leading edge of a signal as it "charges" the shield. Some like the effect of a slower leading edge, I would say it depends on your equipment. Twisted pair, which all my cables use, is generally enough to cancel noise, CPU series is for the paranoid or high interference areas.


and upon further questioning about the differences (a bit about hum in my system):

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Originally Posted by Larry at headphile.com
I normally don't discuss slower leading edge on shielded cables, most people, even on Head-Fi, are unaware that this occurs. The signal will just sound slightly more laid back, which isn't bad, may even be good depending on system. Twisted pair is usually adequate, even in computer environment. Shielding will stop outside interference from coming in along the cable run, but does nothing to eliminate already existing noise in the equipment. Whether you would hear the difference between the two cables is unknown and which would sound better to you is unpredictable also.


I went with the standard series and found it more than adequete as far as noise shielding was concerned. all hum is gone except at the very highest (beyond reasonable listening levels) volume levels on my amp.
 
Jul 8, 2004 at 6:01 AM Post #4 of 11
so in other words, standard is better in terms of sound quality, but CPU series offers more protection ?

i wish someone could give me the list of pros and cons of both standard and CPU series.
 
Jul 8, 2004 at 12:31 PM Post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by dj_mocok
so in other words, standard is better in terms of sound quality, but CPU series offers more protection ?

i wish someone could give me the list of pros and cons of both standard and CPU series.



The way I understood it was that they are the same thing, except the CPU series has more shielding than is necessisary in most applications, while the standard series has the potential to sound slightly better in certain setups.
 
Jul 8, 2004 at 12:39 PM Post #6 of 11
i am thinking to get a standard series... but noticing that CPU series is to block interference, are we talking about exclusively intereference from computer ?

So as long as im not placing my rig anywhere near my PC, i won't need to get the CPU series ? or are there any other things that might interfere, eg. bedlamps, speakers, etc.. ?

I am thinking to put a CD player and headphone amp on my bedside table, the only thing that is electric-related on the bedside table is my bedside lamp. so do i need CPU series, or standard series is ok for me?
 
Jul 8, 2004 at 7:47 PM Post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by dj_mocok
i am thinking to get a standard series... but noticing that CPU series is to block interference, are we talking about exclusively intereference from computer ?

So as long as im not placing my rig anywhere near my PC, i won't need to get the CPU series ? or are there any other things that might interfere, eg. bedlamps, speakers, etc.. ?

I am thinking to put a CD player and headphone amp on my bedside table, the only thing that is electric-related on the bedside table is my bedside lamp. so do i need CPU series, or standard series is ok for me?



It sounds to me like the shielding would be good if you had to run the cable beside power cords
 
Jul 8, 2004 at 9:56 PM Post #9 of 11
afaik, in genera shielding increases emi/rfi rejection, but also increases capacitance.

afaik, many engineers are of the opinion that capacitance is the single biggest factor that affects sound audibly.
 
Jul 9, 2004 at 6:22 AM Post #10 of 11
now what is capacitance ?
getting confused here... hehe..

i just realised, basically, my headphone amp will be on top of my CD player unit, then they both will be on the small table on the side of my bed; SHaring the place with one bedside lamp and Radio Clock.

The space between CD player and those clock and lamp will probably around 10cm apart.

So, do i need shielding ?
 
Jul 9, 2004 at 12:40 PM Post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by dj_mocok
now what is capacitance ?
getting confused here... hehe..

i just realised, basically, my headphone amp will be on top of my CD player unit, then they both will be on the small table on the side of my bed; SHaring the place with one bedside lamp and Radio Clock.

The space between CD player and those clock and lamp will probably around 10cm apart.

So, do i need shielding ?



I've got two computers, an xbox, a ps2, a tivo, a sattelite decoder box, a reciver, a lamp, a clock, a switch, three ups strips, a tv, a dreamcast, a gamecube, my headphone amp, my reciever, 3 speakers and a sub all sharing the same general area of this room. there are probably easily 25-35 cables running to various things within a 10 foot radius of my standard series cables, and probably at least 4 or 5 running right next to them. I've got zero interference. I think the standard series will do you quite well.
 

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