HE-560 with DragonFly Red DAC/Amp Upgrade
Oct 6, 2016 at 6:48 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 2

mtw09

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Hello,
 
A little backstory:
I started out with a pair of Grado SR80e's with a DragonFly v1.2. I used them for about a year and they were a great intro into this expensive hobby. I kept looking at possibly a better pair of Grados or HiFiMans but I was having a hard time justifying the cost since I didn't have anywhere to demo them. I finally decided to just go for the HE-560s and I absolutely LOVE them. I've had them for a few weeks and they still give me chills. I purchased a DragonFly Red at the same time since from what I read it was able to drive them. I feel like I'm at the limits with the DFR since I need to have to volume up around 85%+ (although it's still loud enough for me and sounds good).
 
So my first question is: How much potential am I missing out on without a DAC/amp combo?
 
My main listening is via computer using Spotify/Tidal/FLAC. This will be strictly for home so size/portability doesn't matter.
 
I've been looking at:
Schiit Bifrost Multibit
Schiit Lyr2
But I'm also interested in the the Jotunheim, but seems a little mixed reviews on the DAC.
 
How much of a difference is there from the DragonFly Red to the Bifrost/Lyr2 combo? Is it worth justifying $200 vs $1,129? Does it seem overkill for these headphones? It is within my budget but I'm worried that there won't be enough of a noticeable difference for the cost difference. Most of what I listen to isn't high res (just 44.1). I do see the benefit in the investment for future headphones though.
 
Any suggestions or insight is greatly appreciated. This is my first dive into hifi and I want to continue to improve my setup.
 
Thanks!
-Matt
 
Oct 6, 2016 at 7:32 PM Post #2 of 2
I think you would be better off getting a amp only. The Dragonfly Red is pretty good in the DAC department and have not heard the amp portion though. Some amps will make things loud enough but just don't sound that good. My Ether-C's are plenty loud out of my MBP but sound so much better thru my desktop setup. I demoed my new amp ( be here Monday can't wait) thru a Dragonfly Red and was quite impressed. I know my Yggy will be better but it was pretty good though. From what I've read the Jotunhiem is a very good amp (you can get it without the DAC) I'll be better able to say as it will be at a meet in a couple of weeks. My HE 400S sound fine from my phone or laptop but still a better DAC and amp is better to me. Just my opinion YMMV
 

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