HD650, amplification, and the sennheiser veil
Mar 16, 2006 at 10:56 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 15

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it has been said that there is a certain amout of amplification needed to clearify the "veiled" midrange on the HD650. this i know to exist, as i did test other headphones at the SF meet and found the 650s a bit veiled. Can i get a list of amps that are/may-be capable of driving the Sennheisers to this performance point?
i'll add one i know works: gilmore balenced reference.
 
Mar 16, 2006 at 11:03 PM Post #2 of 15

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I don't know about single-ended amps but pretty much any balanced amp should eliminate any veil. I personally am in the "what veil?" camp.
 
Mar 16, 2006 at 11:06 PM Post #3 of 15

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The Raptor does a great job with the HD650, and then you can tuberoll to find the right sound for your tastes.
 
Mar 16, 2006 at 11:12 PM Post #4 of 15

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My MPX3 has no veil (as well as the other ones I've heard) or my Lavry for that matter. PPX3 SLAM probably as well...
 
Mar 16, 2006 at 11:25 PM Post #5 of 15

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I do believe that the PS Audio GCHA seems to reduce the "veil" phenomenon. I initially paired the Sennheiser HD650 with a number of amplifiers, but it wasnt until I tested the GCHA that I had discovered proper amplification for the headphone.


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Mar 17, 2006 at 1:09 AM Post #6 of 15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bones13
The Raptor does a great job with the HD650, and then you can tuberoll to find the right sound for your tastes.


What he said.
HR-2 does well too and both do well w/ Grados.
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Mar 17, 2006 at 11:36 AM Post #8 of 15

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M^3 -> HD650 = what veil?
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Mar 17, 2006 at 1:27 PM Post #9 of 15

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The Aria amp for me does help in removing this 'veil'.

However, with the limted range of equipment that I tried, I found the Equinox cable to be the biggest 'veil' remover.
 
Mar 17, 2006 at 1:31 PM Post #10 of 15

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FWIW alot also has to do with the source that you're using as well. You can haea great amp, but if you're pairing it with a lower level source you can still get that veil, atleast that's what I've experienced.
 
Mar 17, 2006 at 2:00 PM Post #11 of 15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PsychoZX
I don't know about single-ended amps but pretty much any balanced amp should eliminate any veil. I personally am in the "what veil?" camp.


How about a balanced Cmoy.
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Mar 17, 2006 at 7:38 PM Post #14 of 15

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In my experience to date, the only thing which removes the veil is defoaming the suckers and replacing it with thin fabric. Amps can help, as can driving them balanced, but that only thins the veil and never fully removes it.
 

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