HD580s Scratchiness/Graininess/Distortion
Jul 20, 2008 at 8:31 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 13

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Set-up: 5th Gen iPod>Meier 2Move>HD580s
high kbit Apple Lossless files.

Problem: definite sound of "scratchiness/graininess/distortion" on certain recordings. I notice this most around snare, cymbal, electric guitar, so it seems to be specific frequencies. However, sometimes these instruments sound the way I imagine they should sound (no distortion). While I understand that sometimes distortion is added intentionally or left in the mix intentionally, these instances don't fit that description. I do not have this problem with other headphones, e.g., ER4S.

My question: what is most likely causing this problem? Is it possible for a can to have problems with only very specific frequencies? Is this a known problem for 580s or are they maybe "broken." If I like the 580s in general, what are some appropriate replacements/upgrades (let's not go too far off on that thread though)?

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Jul 20, 2008 at 8:34 PM Post #2 of 13

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do you have another source to test the headphones? try plugging them into your computer and see if you experience the same scratchiness
 
Jul 20, 2008 at 8:40 PM Post #3 of 13

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It must be your recordings.
When I moved up the hi-fi ladder, I heard distortion on crappy CD's that I never heard before.
The HD580 are quite revealing.
 
Jul 20, 2008 at 8:42 PM Post #4 of 13

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do you have another source to test the headphones? try plugging them into your computer and see if you experience the same scratchiness


No, there is not the same scratchiness when I use the computer.
 
Jul 20, 2008 at 8:46 PM Post #6 of 13

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ahhh the recent popping up of 580 threads makes me want to buy them, i found them on some other buy and sell websites selling for 220 with a cardas cable. Is it worth it?


hey tomi that sounds like a good deal to pounce on. if you dont mind could you please direct me to that site (you have my word that i wont buy the headphones if it's the only pair and you want it) as i have been looking for a good deal on some HD580 for WEEKS and recently was scammed by athome-products DOT com although they simply canceled the order and refunded me.
 
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my guess is also that it is the recordings. Since getting the 580s, there is a lot of music i just don't listen to because these phones really let you know when u have a crap recording. Also, are you using a LOD between your ipod and amp?
 
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my guess is also that it is the recordings. Since getting the 580s, there is a lot of music i just don't listen to because these phones really let you know when u have a crap recording. Also, are you using a LOD between your ipod and amp?


Yes, a lower-end Qables LOD and it makes a huge difference, as expected.
 
Jul 20, 2008 at 9:09 PM Post #9 of 13

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I think the problem is with your recordings, possibly your amplification. Have you tried plugging them into a receiver, or something with plenty of power?
 
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I think the problem is with your recordings, possibly your amplification. Have you tried plugging them into a receiver, or something with plenty of power?


No, but I'll do that right now.
 
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I think the problem is with your recordings, possibly your amplification. Have you tried plugging them into a receiver, or something with plenty of power?


I tried it through an Onkyo mini-component hp out and I hear the same thing on the same track. It's not as pronounced, but it's there: perhaps better described as a "crackle" on certain treblish frequencies. I do not hear the same thing from either source through the ER4S's and I would think I would if it were a question of the audio files, no?
 
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I have the same problem both with 580 and 650.
At first I thought it is my phones problem.
But now I feel it is not.
At first I upgrade my audio cable from MAC to AMP (used to be a 5$ 3.5mm audio cable and not it is 50$ one- not high end still) then I found it is better.
But when I update the AMP's tube from org. DV 332's tube to WE 403B The problem just come to minor.
Now I am using the 5654 TUNG-SOL. WOW I do not have that problem at all.
I did the blind test with my GF and she give me clear answer same as me. So I think it is the problem about the AMP or other hardware.
Now I am waitting the DAC and wait to see what is going to happen.
 
Jul 21, 2008 at 9:06 PM Post #13 of 13

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Well, after much A/B'ing with numerous different sources and different recordings I have tentatively decided that the problem is the behavior of my HD580s with certain recordings. So, this conclusion really solves nothing: "It's both the recordings and the cans" and I'm really not closer to narrowing it down any further. I suppose it could be some of both. Regardless, I would like to publicly proclaim my great satisfaction with the HD580s. They are doing a great job of keeping my ears very happy until I take the upgrade plunge.

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