[beowulf]

I'll leave just a small note praising the B3P1.. They're quite impressive for the price. Head to head with the big boys.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/675219/shure-se846-impressions-thread/16905#post_13126037

 

[TooPoorForHiFi]

Hello, I saw two version of this Earphone, Bass Edition & Old Version Pro1. Any Idea which one is better for Fun-Listening / Sound ? isn't Harsh to the ears? Decent thumb'in Bass? doesn't sound stale / boring?
 
Thanks

 

[Ruben123]

Both versions are not really meant for fun listening with much bass...

 

[H T T]

The B3 Pro 1 would probably not be the first IEM in my arsenal for bass-oriented music. That said, with a proper seal, the B3 is competent down low. 

 

[beowulf]

 The B3 Pro 1 would probably not be the first IEM in my arsenal for bass-oriented music. That said, with a proper seal, the B3 is competent down low. 

 
I strongly recommend getting the JVC Spiral Dots (MS Size) for the Havi B3 Pro1. I was fairly tip-agnostic until having some A:B comparisons with them and the improvement with the Havi is substancial. A lot more body in the midrange. Bass gets tighter and better in quality, not just quantity.
 
I'm actually playing  with several tips at the moment and tried a few old ones I had.. the Spiral Dots are the only ones that make the Havi sound get close to as lush as on the SE846. It really improves the Havi a lot. What is curious is that my Spirals are a bit small so the seal is addequate but not extreme. They're also soft and comfy.

 

[misteral201103]

 

  The B3 Pro 1 would probably not be the first IEM in my arsenal for bass-oriented music. That said, with a proper seal, the B3 is competent down low. 

 
I strongly recommend getting the JVC Spiral Dots (MS Size) for the Havi B3 Pro1. I was fairly tip-agnostic until having some A:B comparisons with them and the improvement with the Havi is substancial. A lot more body in the midrange. Bass gets tighter and better in quality, not just quantity.
 
I'm actually playing  with several tips at the moment and tried a few old ones I had.. the Spiral Dots are the only ones that make the Havi sound get close to as lush as on the SE846. It really improves the Havi a lot. What is curious is that my Spirals are a bit small so the seal is addequate but not extreme. They're also soft and comfy.

 
+1. Spiral Dots are ESSENTIAL to get the best from the B3s

 

[alvinlim2010]

   
+1. Spiral Dots are ESSENTIAL to get the best from the B3s

I have the Havi and I am impressed with the soundstage that I can get from it with a proper seal.
 
I am curious how is the Spiral Dots different from your usual eartips? What about SpinFit?

 

[RedTwilight]

 
I have the Havi and I am impressed with the soundstage that I can get from it with a proper seal.
 
I am curious how is the Spiral Dots different from your usual eartips? What about SpinFit?

 
They have larger than average bore and the nozzle is dimpled to help with some compression effect. I can't understand the details well enough to explain it. 
 
If you're already impressed with the soundstage with the stock tips (try the dual flange ones in case you've not already), you're going to be in for a fun time with the SDs.
 
Tried spinfits too but they went to deep for me and always ended up causing my ear to itch. Sound wise I feel that the spinfits end up 'compressing' the sound abit.

 

[misteral201103]

   
They have larger than average bore and the nozzle is dimpled to help with some compression effect. I can't understand the details well enough to explain it. 
 
If you're already impressed with the soundstage with the stock tips (try the dual flange ones in case you've not already), you're going to be in for a fun time with the SDs.
 

 
@alvinlim2010 What RedTwilight said, especially in terms of the soundstage. I should probably research, because I also don't know how the dimples make such a difference (apart from roughly guessing they disrupt the delivery of the sound, causing the incoming wave to bounce somewhat before it gets to your ear) but on the Havis, they made the bass more full (without bloat) and they widened the soundstage considerably (to my ears)
 
If you don't already own some, I would say they are really worth having in your arsenal of tips. One of the major lessons I've learned since dabbling in the Chinese IEM market is the degree to which you can change the sound of an earphone with different tips. Currently using LZ A4s with foam tips and while the Spiral Dots sound very nice on them, the foam tips give me the best combination of seal and sound. Still, I am in the experimental stage and every now and then will try out different tips just to double check I am getting the most from my 'phones.

 

[alvinlim2010]

   
@alvinlim2010 What RedTwilight said, especially in terms of the soundstage. I should probably research, because I also don't know how the dimples make such a difference (apart from roughly guessing they disrupt the delivery of the sound, causing the incoming wave to bounce somewhat before it gets to your ear) but on the Havis, they made the bass more full (without bloat) and they widened the soundstage considerably (to my ears)
 
If you don't already own some, I would say they are really worth having in your arsenal of tips. One of the major lessons I've learned since dabbling in the Chinese IEM market is the degree to which you can change the sound of an earphone with different tips. Currently using LZ A4s with foam tips and while the Spiral Dots sound very nice on them, the foam tips give me the best combination of seal and sound. Still, I am in the experimental stage and every now and then will try out different tips just to double check I am getting the most from my 'phones.

thanks for the inputs @misteral201103 ! Yes I will try to get a pair of the SDs to see how much does it influence the music.

 

[beowulf]

   
@alvinlim2010 What RedTwilight said, especially in terms of the soundstage. I should probably research, because I also don't know how the dimples make such a difference (apart from roughly guessing they disrupt the delivery of the sound, causing the incoming wave to bounce somewhat before it gets to your ear) but on the Havis, they made the bass more full (without bloat) and they widened the soundstage considerably (to my ears)
 
If you don't already own some, I would say they are really worth having in your arsenal of tips. One of the major lessons I've learned since dabbling in the Chinese IEM market is the degree to which you can change the sound of an earphone with different tips.

 
I'm mostly tip-agnostic, usually not caring much about them, similar to cables and burn-in, among other well loved topics. But in the case of the Spiral Dots, A/B comparisons really worked well for my ears. They really improved the Havi for me... exactly what you mention... improved bass and improved soundstage (width and depth). They're also very soft an comfortable, although sound isolation isn't great.
 
Not sure the dots make any difference, perhaps it's material and shape, but they sure are worth it.

 

[BadReligionPunk]

On an $11 hybrid:wink_face:



Been in this setup all day OK, $19 with my silver cable:rolleyes: LOL

Like B9 says, just look at them:tongue_smile:

Actually just got a pair of these for $10 from gearbest. Sound is actually very nice. I'm shocked. Anyway where did you get the cable?

 

[yacobx]

Mannnnnn.... just pulled the havi out of storage and they are both cracked... doesn't seem to affect the sound. Does havi replace these?

 

[beowulf]

Actually just got a pair of these for $10 from gearbest. Sound is actually very nice. I'm shocked. Anyway where did you get the cable?

How do those ZST compare to the Havi?

 

[Shawn71]

Mannnnnn.... just pulled the havi out of storage and they are both cracked... doesn't seem to affect the sound. Does havi replace these?

Where did you buy it?........chk with the seller if its under warranty.