Grado SR225 or Beyer DT770 (80 ohm) for rock/metal?

[appar111]

I may be able to get a new pair of the Beyer DT770/80 ohm versions for $150, but in that price range, I'm also looking at the Grado SR225's.

Which would be a batter choice, unamped for rock/metal, such as the following?

Dokken
Marilyn Manson
Sevendust
Iron Maiden
Megadeth
Yngwie Malmsteen
Joe Satriani
Saigon Kick
Dead Poetic
Taking Back Sunday
VAST

Anyone who has experiences with both sets of cans-- please offer me your opinions! I'll be using the cans either out of a 100w Sony stereo receiver, pcdp, or TEAC cd player's headphone jack.

thanks!

 

[HiGHFLYiN9]

Unamped I would not consider the DT770, it takes a very good amp to bring out its best. The SR-225 will be fine without one. I find that with heavy metal the SR-225 can be a little grating sometimes, but it excels with hard rock. The DT770/80 will take away the fatiguing top end of metal and add deeper bass, but it will also will recess the midrange.

 

[JJ3810]

I've heard the 770s are very good phones but they DO need an amp. The 225s don't. If you like the "lively" sound of the Grados I'd suggest you go for them. I have the 225s & a PPA but the amp doesn't make a drastic difference in the sound of the Grados. It is better, no question but then it should be, shouldn't it? Two hundred dollars worth of High-Spec components should improve the sound somewhat as opposed to that at the headphone output of my Marantz 1180 dc - and that ain't too shabby.

 

[Cyberius]

My Opinion = My SR-125s are definitely better than My DT-770s for metal.

I grab my 125s for Bolt Thrower, Iron Maiden, and Ozzy.

I save the 770s for electronica - except vocal-trance where the recessed mids up against the thunder bass kill the female vocals.

 

[3lusiv3]

I don't understand why some people say the DT770's have recessed mids but others have said they don't. Very confusing for those of use who haven't heard them. I wonder whether the difference in opinion is due to source, amp or music genre, and whether people are talking about the same model 770.

 

[Mr.Radar]

The new 80-ohm version is suppost to have good mids while the older 250-ohm version is suppost to have recessed mids.

 

[JeffL]

Since I have had both the 250 Ohm version and the 80 Ohm version, I can say that the 80 Ohm version is much better for rock with the much improved midrange. But not only that, the treble is smoothed out and not as overcooked, so the overall sound is much more balanced. I would also say the 80 Ohm version is more forgiving.

 

[LTUCCI1924]

Mr.Radar
HI: How are you? Tomorrow is SUNDAY. Are you buying them tomorrow? If so would you post some first impressions?

 

[Mr.Radar]

Yes I am getting the DT770/80 tomorrow and I will post impressions once I get home (which may be around 7 or 8 o'clock central time). Actually, right now I'm preparing my test CD.

 

[Cyberius]

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Originally Posted by JeffL I can say that the 80 Ohm version is much better for rock with the much improved midrange. But not only that, the treble is smoothed out and not as overcooked, so the overall sound is much more balanced. I would also say the 80 Ohm version is more forgiving.

Hummm.... Makes me want some. I got the 250 Ohm version.

 

[Supsup]

grado grado grado grado grado


I have the DT770 Pro 250ohm model, and the 225s. Both amped an unamped, the Grados are incredibly better for the bands you mentioned, especially dead poetic.

 

[3lusiv3]

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Originally Posted by Supsup grado grado grado grado grado I have the DT770 Pro 250ohm model, and the 225s. Both amped an unamped, the Grados are incredibly better for the bands you mentioned, especially dead poetic.

Is the bass on the Grado's deep enough?

 

[Jahn]

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Originally Posted by 3lusiv3 Is the bass on the Grado's deep enough?

The MS-2 has superior PUNCH but the DT770 goes deeper. Both are tight, but the MS-2 has a POW and the DT770 has a THRUM. The MS-2 definitely goes deep tho - but not as deep as the Bassmeister.

 

[Supsup]

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Originally Posted by 3lusiv3 Is the bass on the Grado's deep enough?

225s have excellent bass... deep and punchy. On the other hand, nothing can touch the bass of the 770 pros.

After listening with the 770s for a while, my ears have to adjust to the 225s as they'll sound a little thin, but a few minutes of listening and it's good from there.

 

[hottyson]

I have not owned and will never own the Beyerdynamic DT-770/80 but I have owned a few higher impedance versions of the DT-770.

I currently own the Grado SR-225 and it sounds better than all of my other headphones on most of my music. It outclasses the Beyerdynamic DT-770 sound that I have experienced by a large margin. Of course there are exceptions in the areas of visceral acurate bass (which Beyerdynamic DT-770 will always remain king), and portable benifits of the DT-770's sealed headphone design. Furthermore, as already stated the Grado SR-225 still sounds quite amazing even when you don't want to lug your headphone amplifier around with you.

I say Grado SR-225 is the one that you should go with if you don't mind leaking sound both in and out.