Grado SR-60 vs Alessandro MS-1
post-1461796
Thread Starter
Post #1 of 29

gabbabe

New Head-Fier
Joined
Jun 15, 2005
Messages
15
Reaction score
0
Joined
Jun 15, 2005
Posts
15
Likes
0
The comparison of the two seems to be done to death, but I still cannot decide which one to get.

From what I understand, the SR-60 is richer is sound whilst the MS-1 is clearer? And that the MS-1 is based on the SR-125 (which I suppose is more expensive than the SR-60).

I also will be running without amp. Any advise would be appreciated.
 
     Share This Post       
post-1462164
Post #2 of 29

jpr703

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Sep 24, 2004
Messages
2,733
Reaction score
14
Joined
Sep 24, 2004
Posts
2,733
Likes
14
That's up to you, but they are different headphones at different price points. To compare apples to apples you'd have to compare the MS-1 to the SR125. Personally, I'd stick with the 60s or start comparing the MS-2 with the SR225.

Sweet spots in the Grado line-up, IMHO:

SR60
SR225
RS-1
 
     Share This Post       
post-1462198
Post #3 of 29

Teerawit

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Mar 21, 2005
Messages
3,988
Reaction score
11
Joined
Mar 21, 2005
Posts
3,988
Likes
11
Quote:

Originally Posted by jpr703
That's up to you, but they are different headphones at different price points. To compare apples to apples you'd have to compare the MS-1 to the SR125. Personally, I'd stick with the 60s or start comparing the MS-2 with the SR225.


I don't think the SR125 and the MS1 is "apples to apples" per se. SR125 is $150, MS1 is $100...maybe the MS1 and SR80 are more along the lines of "apples to apples." Also, the MS2i and SR225 are definitely not apples to apples -- but the MS2i and the SR325i are.
 
     Share This Post       
post-1464108
Post #4 of 29

nakedtoes

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Apr 25, 2004
Messages
601
Reaction score
30
Joined
Apr 25, 2004
Posts
601
Likes
30
I have the SR80 and heard the MS1 (before burn in).. the MS1 sound so much clearer then SR80..
 
     Share This Post       
post-1464167
Post #5 of 29

jpr703

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Sep 24, 2004
Messages
2,733
Reaction score
14
Joined
Sep 24, 2004
Posts
2,733
Likes
14
My bust, I did mistype that. The MS-2 is indeed based on the 325 just as the MS-1 is based on the 125.
 
     Share This Post       
post-1464213
Post #6 of 29

OceanEnthusiast

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Apr 22, 2004
Messages
365
Reaction score
0
Joined
Apr 22, 2004
Posts
365
Likes
0
sr125?

i thought the ms-1 was based on the sr80. im confused. is there a definitive answer on this?
 
     Share This Post       
post-1464230
Post #7 of 29

sionghchan

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jun 1, 2005
Messages
564
Reaction score
14
Joined
Jun 1, 2005
Posts
564
Likes
14
Well, looked at exactly the same issue as yourself here.

I finally went with the MS1 over the SR60 just because of the deal and based on their reviews (for us here in Canada, SR60 costs the same price as MS1s as we can buy MS1s directly from the States while SR60, we will have to purchase from Canada - distributor rights). You should never buy headphones the way I did, without first auditioning them. However, I lucked out and ended up with something I quite like. The MS1s are more neutral, less sibilance and a little more distant. I upgraded the comfies to bowl pads and they sound great!

My sister on the other hand, went with SR60. The sound from the SR60 is richer more bassy and definitely more coloured. Contrary to what a lot of people think, coloured to me isn't all bad. To my ears, the SR60 is more pleasing to listen to...however, personal preference. MS1s are more analytical. One thing though, for SR60, don't bother upgrading the comfy pads that comes with it. Bowls on them make them sound too shrill with lots of sibilance..

It is really a personal preference. If you are in the US, I would definitely give SR60 a really high marks at US$69, save up some money and then look at upgrading to say the SR325 or the MS2 in future.

However, if you are in Canada, go with the MS1s if you want to get more bang for the buck..

Hope this helps..
 
     Share This Post       
post-1464234
Post #8 of 29

sionghchan

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jun 1, 2005
Messages
564
Reaction score
14
Joined
Jun 1, 2005
Posts
564
Likes
14
Quote:

Originally Posted by OceanEnthusiast
sr125?

i thought the ms-1 was based on the sr80. im confused. is there a definitive answer on this?



Unfortunately, I haven't found one. However, based on the specs, I would think it is more economical for Alessandro to make MS1s out of SR125s as SR125s have more critical parts in common with the MS1s as opposed to the SR80 (e.g. the UHPLC voice coils).

Actually, for you Grado folks, what's the MAIN difference between SR80 and SR125 anyway? Is there a TRUE difference in sound? The only thing that is truly different on their specs is the UHPLC voice coils.
 
     Share This Post       
post-1464272
Post #9 of 29

warpdriver

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Apr 29, 2005
Messages
3,407
Reaction score
16
Joined
Apr 29, 2005
Posts
3,407
Likes
16
Quote:

Originally Posted by sionghchan
Actually, for you Grado folks, what's the MAIN difference between SR80 and SR125 anyway? Is there a TRUE difference in sound? The only thing that is truly different on their specs is the UHPLC voice coils.


Yes, that's always what I wondered too. I certainly couldn't hear the difference with a quick listen.
 
     Share This Post       
post-1464626
Post #10 of 29

gabbabe

New Head-Fier
Joined
Jun 15, 2005
Messages
15
Reaction score
0
Joined
Jun 15, 2005
Posts
15
Likes
0
Thanks sionghchan and others. Actually, I'm in Australia, ms-1s and sr-60 are similarly priced. Unfortunately I can't test them before buying.

I heard that the ms-1s are uncomfortable to listen to for long periods of time. Do u feel the same sionghchan?
 
     Share This Post       
post-1464642
Post #11 of 29

fureshi

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Aug 19, 2003
Messages
2,535
Reaction score
11
Joined
Aug 19, 2003
Posts
2,535
Likes
11
they both come with comfy pads, which i think are the most comfortable out of all pads available from grado. the only discomfort that they might have is with the headband but you can always bend it to fit your head.
 
     Share This Post       
post-1464775
Post #12 of 29

sionghchan

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jun 1, 2005
Messages
564
Reaction score
14
Joined
Jun 1, 2005
Posts
564
Likes
14
Quote:

Originally Posted by gabbabe
Thanks sionghchan and others. Actually, I'm in Australia, ms-1s and sr-60 are similarly priced. Unfortunately I can't test them before buying.

I heard that the ms-1s are uncomfortable to listen to for long periods of time. Do u feel the same sionghchan?



Initially, prior to upgrading, both the MS1s and SR60s come with comfy pads (pads like normal headphone pads with no hole in the middle). They are physically very comfortable. However, if you want a little more soundstaging and clearer sounds, try getting the Bowl Pads for the MS1s as the original comfy pads sounds a little muffled. However, do realise that unless you are a truly critical listener, you will not able to discern a real difference, just a feeling that things are clearer.

With Bowl Pads however, both MS1s and SR60s do get quite uncomfortable. The physical comfort level is mainly caused by the type of pads you put on the cans....and not the cans themselves.

Now, for SR60, a lot of people found that if you were to change the original comfy pads to bowl pads, their sibilance is killing! Very fatiguing...hence you can't listen for a long time. So, for SR60, no point changing their comfy pads.

Both are very good cans...it just depends on your taste. Do you like a very engulfing, upfront, fun sound? If you do, get the SR60. If you like a more neutral sound with less sibilance, get the MS1.

However, if SR60 costs the same as MS1 (as in here in Canada), I would suggest that you get the MS1 for the bang for the buck factor.

One big caveat...DO TRY TO audition those cans first if you can. At least try the SR60 as you can find them easily in Australia..

Hope this helps!
SH
 
     Share This Post       
post-1464805
Post #13 of 29

warpdriver

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Apr 29, 2005
Messages
3,407
Reaction score
16
Joined
Apr 29, 2005
Posts
3,407
Likes
16
Quote:

Originally Posted by sionghchan

With Bowl Pads however, both MS1s and SR60s do get quite uncomfortable. The physical comfort level is mainly caused by the type of pads you put on the cans....and not the cans themselves.



There's lots of threads already debating the comfort of the various pads. I am one of the people that find the bowl pads quite comfortable, just as comfortable as the comfie pads, so it really depends on who you ask.
 
     Share This Post       
post-1465985
Post #14 of 29

jpr703

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Sep 24, 2004
Messages
2,733
Reaction score
14
Joined
Sep 24, 2004
Posts
2,733
Likes
14
The bowls don't bother me either. Maybe a tad bit scratchy when they're brand new but that wears off pretty quick.
 
     Share This Post       
post-1467452
Post #15 of 29

gabbabe

New Head-Fier
Joined
Jun 15, 2005
Messages
15
Reaction score
0
Joined
Jun 15, 2005
Posts
15
Likes
0
Thanks again.
I think I'll opt for the MS-1 as I can't test sr-60 here, (despite the SR-60 appreciation thread potentially giving me the regrets), and do further research on the bowl pads (and then consider the cutting-hole method).
 
     Share This Post       

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top