Grado help...
Jul 25, 2009 at 6:04 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 19

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Hey guys.

I'm going to get the Grado SR-80i's. Question is, what mods should I do to them? They should be somewhat easy.

So far:
-414 Senn Pads
-Wire Grill

Is it worth it to make a different enclosure? What would be the easiest substance for it?
 
Jul 25, 2009 at 6:16 PM Post #2 of 19
a more open wire grille (make sure that it offers better venting than the stock grille) and the dynamat/blue-tak driver mod. Be sure and buy some bowl pads too.
 
Jul 25, 2009 at 6:21 PM Post #3 of 19
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Originally Posted by LingLing1337 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
a more open wire grille (make sure that it offers better venting than the stock grille) and the dynamat/blue-tak driver mod. Be sure and buy some bowl pads too.


The dynamat/blue tak mod: does it make the warranty void? Is there a large chance that I could damage the speaker?

Where are the bowl pads sold? HeadRoom or what?
 
Jul 25, 2009 at 6:30 PM Post #4 of 19
Why are you planning to mod something you haven't even heard yet?

Not to dump on the OP, but there's a mistaken assumption that everything has to be modified or somehow tweaked. Usual reasons include alleged "cheapness" on behalf of the manufacturer, someone who is popular on the forums claiming a big "improvement" and the assorted snakeoil merchants and flimflam artists trying to convince you to send them money.

Try them stock and see what you think.

And if something isn't what you want, then why did you buy it in the first place?
 
Jul 25, 2009 at 6:33 PM Post #5 of 19
I concur, I say get the headphone and burn them in. Enjoy the changes and if and only if after you have had them for a while then consider mods. Note: a mod may/will change the sound but it is not always for the better.
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Jul 25, 2009 at 6:43 PM Post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by iHelp /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The dynamat/blue tak mod: does it make the warranty void? Is there a large chance that I could damage the speaker?

Where are the bowl pads sold? HeadRoom or what?



Any modification will void the warranty, except for pad swapping.

Let me google that for you
 
Jul 25, 2009 at 7:34 PM Post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Why are you planning to mod something you haven't even heard yet?

Not to dump on the OP, but there's a mistaken assumption that everything has to be modified or somehow tweaked. Usual reasons include alleged "cheapness" on behalf of the manufacturer, someone who is popular on the forums claiming a big "improvement" and the assorted snakeoil merchants and flimflam artists trying to convince you to send them money.

Try them stock and see what you think.

And if something isn't what you want, then why did you buy it in the first place?



sorry. Don't have to get offensive. I'll try them stock, but I do want to get the 414 pads. I want to try them on my PX100's.
 
Aug 8, 2009 at 2:42 AM Post #9 of 19
I'd wait and listen to the Grados with the flats. You may like them just fine. The flats press your ear closest to the driver and give you the best bass. If this is too close, and you feel the soundstage too constricted and the HF too limited, go for the doughnuts, the wonderful L-Cush ($20). These are, in my opinion, the most influential mod you can make with a Grado. They open up the soundstage without sacrificing much of the bass. They are, in my opinion, the best adaptation. If you want maximum soundstage and as much HF as you can handle, go all the way with the salad bowl cushions ($45). But be careful what you wish for, you may just get it. It's possible to go too wide and to have too much HF. Even with the famed GS-1000 (which I own), you can end up feeling like the presentation is too sibilant.

Under what conditions, then, would it make sense to own the salad bowls? When you have a rockin', warm, tubelike amp. John Grado's amp is a Melos. With an amp like that, the salad bowls make ample sense since they liberate the ear from constriction of the soundstage caused by cavernous bass. I didn't realize this until I'd purchased an M^3, which is a solid state amp that has a tube-like sound. The warmth of my M^3 turned the tables on my other Grados and, for the first time, favored the GS-1000.

But if your source is something like an iPod, those salad bowl cushions may be too much. They were for me. I found that my GS-1000 sounds better, off an iPod, when I switch to the doughnuts. Better yet, I find other Grados, like the RS-1 and even the SR-60, to be more appropriate.

If you really want to misbehave (perhaps after your warranty has expired), you could throw caution to the wind and do something like this:

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I took the backs off of a pair of SR-60s. Mind you, I don't care what people think I (or my headphones) look like. I just wanted to eliminate any issues of rear-wave resonance. To pull this off, I had to superglue the headband prongs directly to the cushion, which is a doughnut.

The result? You won't believe me if I tell you. Those SR-60s had the most controlled bass I've ever heard. Everything was straight off the driver. It was such an awesome result that, even now, I'm going to do it again. I've since sold off my modded SR-60s but I've just purchased another pair, so I can create another mod. And if these sound as good as those, I'm going to sell off my GS-1000s and RS1's and SR-325i's. After all, the SR-60 has the flattest frequency performance graph. I think Grado's best idea was open-air, but if open-air is where it's at, there's no reason for air chambers. Air chambers are a holdover from closed headphones. What you hear is the driver, and when Grado started charging two grand for aluminum drivers with mahogany innards nobody can see, that was enough for me. I'm going to go with a modded SR-60 as my open-air phone (which is great when I have to hear what's going on around me, like my wife and kids).
 
Aug 8, 2009 at 3:15 AM Post #10 of 19
Try to make a body out of thick cardboard tubing. I did it once and it did slightly increase the soundstage, but the cardboard created some unsavory resonances..

I suppose if I were to re-do it I would have to line the inside of it with thin foam, that way there will be no resonances..

You could always apply silicone/epoxy/blu-tak to the back of the driver. It helps to smooth the sound and kill peaks in certain frequencies.

Oh! if you have the newer "i" models you can dampen the inside of the enclosure by laying light foam on the inner walls of the driver enclosure. This helps to reduce peeks and resonances/reflections. I have done this to my SR-225i and have gotten good results. Sound also seems to become slightly tighter.
 
Aug 8, 2009 at 5:12 AM Post #12 of 19
I'll take some in a little bit, OK? My camera's batteries are charging now.
 
Aug 8, 2009 at 7:14 AM Post #14 of 19
I bet balancing them does make a huge difference, but balanced amps are pretty expensive.

Flats make the Grado's good for Rap and bass heavy stuff, though any Grado is no slouch when t comes to bass in the first place. All Grado's have great bass.
 
Aug 8, 2009 at 12:46 PM Post #15 of 19
I have a set of SR-60s as well. I've head em for 3 years and enjoy their sound. No issues.

I'm tinkering with the idea to mod em just because. Throw a nice leather band and do something different with the bowls. I like the open bowl idea. Maybe make some deep wood bowls (an couple inches)...dunno.
 

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