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Nov 30, 2021 at 6:37 PM Post #49,757 of 50,765

murphythecat

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Nov 30, 2021 at 9:14 PM Post #49,758 of 50,765

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why not just get a used pair in the USA/Canada?
You mean aside from ‘only US shipping‘?!
There was a guy offering a pair of ‘The Wheeler‘ in 2018/19 for month. I frequently contacted him, in l later PMs explaining I‘ll find out what to do, providing the (filled) forms, paying taxes/fees, ordering the postal service, etc.
‘No International shipping!‘ He waited. Eventually he sold the cans and I was frustrated.
But yeah, you are right, someone will sell.
I‘m sorry for this, but please, let me have a moan:
- Why miss a warranty?
- Why miss the chance to return/get a refund?
- Why miss the break-in experience? (Definitely my cup of tea!)
- Why don’t be able to unbox an own sealed, virgin pair? (Not my thing, but some really love that.)
- Why risk an argument with the (probably guiltless) seller about some unnoticed imperfections?
Let’s play around with numbers.
Last time I checked a container New York/Hamburg was around 1600,- including fees and taxes. Ok,
it’s been a while.
This thing easily takes a thousand phones. Round about 1,60 € per phone. Let’s say they order 500 pairs. 3,20 €. Let’s say they raised the shipping by a 100%. 6,40 €. Uhh, they were cautious and ordered just 300 pairs. 10,66 €. A hundred. 32,- €
Paying a 50,- € more than in the US? OK! A 100,- € (+112.62 = 862.62 $ = 765,98 €)? Growling, but most will be paying. Remember, the RS1e is still offered at 849,- € on the distributors website.
Most don’t know the US price difference and will pay these 850 bucks. ‘For the new model? Great offer!‘
(No) Sorry, but I guess you can imagine that a countries distributor has at least the the profit margin of a shop/reseller in the US. 665,98 € (US in €) to 849,- € is an additional margin of 183,20 €.
206.32 $ should be enough compensation.
My job… uhm, let’s say I should be thankful for my income (don’t tell the boss!). I’m not rich, but could teeth grindingly afford these prices. Many have less.
Enough moaning, I beg your pardon.

Our distributor will not like me anymore, buy maybe they listen.
They haven’t presented the price yet. Let’s hope it will be reasonable.
Everyone should have the chance to afford a wooden Grado.
 
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Dec 1, 2021 at 3:04 AM Post #49,759 of 50,765

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Wait… what?
😳

There‘s a SR325i available?
On my way…
😈
maybe I let my new 225e go. don`t need them when I have the rs2e :wink:
325i gold? maybe I sell them for a crazy price, I can not resist :wink:
 
Dec 1, 2021 at 3:09 AM Post #49,760 of 50,765

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why not just get a used pair in the USA/Canada?
not so easy. if I search on ebay. Most selles do not ship outside us.
So hard to find.
Possible to buy new prestige on amazon. but no worldwide warranty.
It is about 30% cheaper to buy 325x on amazon.com
 
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Dec 1, 2021 at 5:31 AM Post #49,761 of 50,765

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You mean aside from ‘only US shipping‘?!
There was a guy offering a pair of ‘The Wheeler‘ in 2018/19 for month. I frequently contacted him, in l later PMs explaining I‘ll find out what to do, providing the (filled) forms, paying taxes/fees, ordering the postal service, etc.
‘No International shipping!‘ He waited. Eventually he sold the cans and I was frustrated.
But yeah, you are right, someone will sell.
I‘m sorry for this, but please, let me have a moan:
- Why miss a warranty?
- Why miss the chance to return/get a refund?
- Why miss the break-in experience? (Definitely my cup of tea!)
- Why don’t be able to unbox an own sealed, virgin pair? (Not my thing, but some really love that.)
- Why risk an argument with the (probably guiltless) seller about some unnoticed imperfections?
Let’s play around with numbers.
Last time I checked a container New York/Hamburg was around 1600,- including fees and taxes. Ok,
it’s been a while.
This thing easily takes a thousand phones. Round about 1,60 € per phone. Let’s say they order 500 pairs. 3,20 €. Let’s say they raised the shipping by a 100%. 6,40 €. Uhh, they were cautious and ordered just 300 pairs. 10,66 €. A hundred. 32,- €
Paying a 50,- € more than in the US? OK! A 100,- € (+112.62 = 862.62 $ = 765,98 €)? Growling, but most will be paying. Remember, the RS1e is still offered at 849,- € on the distributors website.
Most don’t know the US price difference and will pay these 850 bucks. ‘For the new model? Great offer!‘
(No) Sorry, but I guess you can imagine that a countries distributor has at least the the profit margin of a shop/reseller in the US. 665,98 € (US in €) to 849,- € is an additional margin of 183,20 €.
206.32 $ should be enough compensation.
My job… uhm, let’s say I should be thankful for my income (don’t tell the boss!). I’m not rich, but could teeth grindingly afford these prices. Many have less.
Enough moaning, I beg your pardon.

Our distributor will not like me anymore, buy maybe they listen.
They haven’t presented the price yet. Let’s hope it will be reasonable.
Everyone should have the chance to afford a wooden Grado.
I will help anyone who ask :wink:
 
Dec 1, 2021 at 7:45 AM Post #49,763 of 50,765

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Dec 1, 2021 at 7:56 AM Post #49,765 of 50,765

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nothing to be sorry for :wink:
it is still possible to buy Grado here in europe.
black friday and sale is a good thing :)
now I have Grado for the next decade :xf_cool:
 
Dec 1, 2021 at 8:08 AM Post #49,766 of 50,765

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Dec 1, 2021 at 8:15 AM Post #49,767 of 50,765

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The problem is not to find a dealer willing to ship to Europe. The problem is that importing goods from the US (or from any country outside the EU) will be taxed upon delivery. First we pay for the goods, then we pay the customs (here it is 25% on top of the total price including shipping) and then there is a fee from the postal service to handle the payment and registration of taxes. In rare cases, when the postal service is busy around Black Friday and Christmas, the packages can go through customs without being taxed - but that is a lottery game. Most often it gets more expensive to purchase from abroad than pay the local price and support the local reseller.
 
Dec 1, 2021 at 8:41 AM Post #49,769 of 50,765

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sure?
us prices is without tax?
so if i order 325x from amazon I pay
295+tax+ freight= 390USD
if an american buy 325x? he/her must pay tax too?(325+10% tax?)
so buying from us is a good thing.
no extra taxes for us in europe.
the problem in europe, is greedy importers
 

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