Got my HD595s.. now what?

Oct 7, 2004 at 1:21 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 19

Aman

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Hey guys,

I have had my HD595s for a while now and realize that I shall keep my speakers for home theater and headphones for music.

That said, I thought I'd expand my collection a bit, to get the sides of the audio spectrum that the HD595s don't excell in as much..

I was thinking towards a Grado set or the Audio Technica closed-sound headphones. I was looking to spend no more than 150-200 dollars for this one.

I'm not sure I'm ready to trade my headphones just yet - I really like my HD595s. I just want to find a set of headphones that would give me the other side of the audio experience.

My setup is a bit different than my sig:

Rio Karma Stereo Outputs ---> Pioneer SX450 Receiver --> HD595s

Decided to ditch my computer for home audio...

Thanks in advance!!

Andrew Grathwohl
 
Oct 7, 2004 at 2:02 AM Post #3 of 19
LTUCCI1924 is going to suggest the Beyer DT770's, but I'll tell you straight up... they don't hold a candle to the Grado SR225's.

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Oct 7, 2004 at 2:10 AM Post #4 of 19
superjohnny
HI: No offense but don't you mean in your opinion? I have owned the grado 225 and yes they do sound great but so does the pro 770-80 in my opinion.

But I will also say that the 225 and pro 770-80 are two different sounding headphones and each have their advantages and disadvantages.

And for sure the 225 comes no ware near the bass that the pro 770-80 has. Really not many other headphones do.
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Oct 7, 2004 at 2:36 AM Post #5 of 19
Well, my listening tastes are like so:

Mostly classic rock (All sorts, from Billy Joel to Pink Floyd to Led Zeppelin)
Also some Jazz, some blues, and about 30% techno/electronica

I was really considering the 770s before, but I saw that they were not very suited for my listening tastes.
 
Oct 7, 2004 at 2:41 AM Post #6 of 19
Aman
HI: Pink Floyd is my favorite music with the pro 770-80. LOL. But the grado 225 are also very good with them. But to hear the bass that Pink Floyd has is a real treat. I mean ECHOS has some great bass in it.
 
Oct 7, 2004 at 2:50 AM Post #7 of 19
I heard the A900s once again recently and reeeeaaalllly liked what I heard, but if the HD595s are anything like the HD555s, I think you'll probably 'cover more ground' if you go the Grado route.

A co-worker and I switched phones nearly every day for two weeks. I owned the MS1 and he the HD555, and it was a pleasure to go back and forth. Personally I like the detail, warmth and power of the Alessandro, but the Senns instrument placement and soundstage always brought a smile to my face. And in some cases, it's more refinded sound was a plus.
 
Oct 7, 2004 at 4:11 AM Post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by LTUCCI1924
superjohnny
HI: No offense but don't you mean in your opinion? I have owned the grado 225 and yes they do sound great but so does the pro 770-80 in my opinion.

But I will also say that the 225 and pro 770-80 are two different sounding headphones and each have their advantages and disadvantages.

And for sure the 225 comes no ware near the bass that the pro 770-80 has. Really not many other headphones do.
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Absolutely, I was just starting a fight. No offense intended
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Oct 7, 2004 at 1:44 PM Post #9 of 19
Can the 770s REALLY have more bass than he H595s??

My head starts to hurt with the HD59s bass - I don't know if I can handle any more
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I really wanted to get the "rocking" headphones that Grado offered but turned them down for the HD595s because I thought they'd be a more-rounded kind of headphone for me, and they seemed to look comfortable.

So, basically - besides bass, does the 770s have any extreme advantages over the HD595s like the Grados are known to have?

Thanks guys!

I think I may be heading down the Grado route. I need a headphone to get all of the good vibes out of my music, even though I really like bass.
 
Oct 7, 2004 at 5:23 PM Post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by Aman
Can the 770s REALLY have more bass than he H595s??

My head starts to hurt with the HD59s bass - I don't know if I can handle any more
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That's what I thought about my 595 until well into 2nd month where the bass 'rounded up' and not hammering my head. I only have Beyer 531 to compare and imo 531's bass is better behaved. Just curious, what kind of 'other audio experience' that you're looking for, i.e. in what audio spectrum do you feel the 595 don't do well ?
 
Oct 7, 2004 at 5:30 PM Post #11 of 19
sounds like the DT770's bass might destroy you - it's not for everyone, you must be prepared for the frightening onslaught. it's not the DT531 "groovalizer" - it's the Bassmeister. Beyerdynamic rules.

that said, the exact opposite of the senn sound is the grado sound, so the SR225 sound up your alley. go for it, if you want a change of pace, the "Rockalizer" will do it for you.
 
Oct 7, 2004 at 7:12 PM Post #12 of 19
Basically, I felt that the HD595s are pretty well-rounded but a bit on the forward side.

I want something more accurate than the HD595s and more colorful. I hear that the Grados do both of that.

However, I would gladly take more bass. I just need to know which would give a different sound so that I can have two uniquely different set of cans.

Another good question would be which one is driven easier, between, say, the Grado SR225s and the Beyer 770s? I don't have an amp (want one!) and want to be able to get a headphone that will justify a huge improvement with an amp (as I do know that the HD595s don't offer as much improvement as most with an amp).

That said, I also want a headphone that will isolate at least a TAD more than the HD595s do (because they hardly do so at all!).

Thanks a bunch for all of this info guys!
 
Oct 7, 2004 at 7:17 PM Post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by Aman
I think I may be heading down the Grado route. I need a headphone to get all of the good vibes out of my music, even though I really like bass.


If you do go Grado, try some padrolling after they burn in. Plenty of threads here about balancing bass vs. high end with flats/bowls/Senns/vwaps...
 
Oct 7, 2004 at 7:42 PM Post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by Jahn
sounds like the DT770's bass might destroy you - it's not for everyone, you must be prepared for the frightening onslaught. it's not the DT531 "groovalizer" - it's the Bassmeister. Beyerdynamic rules.

that said, the exact opposite of the senn sound is the grado sound, so the SR225 sound up your alley. go for it, if you want a change of pace, the "Rockalizer" will do it for you.





Grados usually are the opposites of Senns, but not necessarily in the case of the HD595. The HD595 is much more forward and energetic than the usual Senn. True, the 225 is more forward, but the 595 certainly is not laid back. The big differences between the two are the narrow to somewhat wide soundstage of 225 & 595, and more bass presence of the 225.
 
Oct 7, 2004 at 7:52 PM Post #15 of 19
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aman
Basically, I felt that the HD595s are pretty well-rounded but a bit on the forward side.

I want something more accurate than the HD595s and more colorful. I hear that the Grados do both of that.

However, I would gladly take more bass. I just need to know which would give a different sound so that I can have two uniquely different set of cans.

Another good question would be which one is driven easier, between, say, the Grado SR225s and the Beyer 770s? I don't have an amp (want one!) and want to be able to get a headphone that will justify a huge improvement with an amp (as I do know that the HD595s don't offer as much improvement as most with an amp).

That said, I also want a headphone that will isolate at least a TAD more than the HD595s do (because they hardly do so at all!).

Thanks a bunch for all of this info guys!




No Grado will give you an iota of isolation, so if you really want more isolation than the HD595, look elsewhere.

The SR225 will deliver more bass, however. Colorful, hell yes, and a fuller sound than the 595. Accuracy, perhaps a stalemate. This is at the sacrifice of a good deal of soundstage, and a TREMENDOUS deal of comfort. It is also fairly easily driven, though an amp will make a nice difference.
 

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