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... if I can build a universal player only using the Pioneer mechanism and SACD decoder from Sony(no way around this) and the rest from DIY sites, I think an ultra high end company like Goldmund would at least do there own DAC and output stage.
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You're doing exactly what all these "audiophile" companies are doing yourself then which is very impressive. I wouldn't know where to start
But you're part of the tradition of how many of these kinds of companies started which I think is also laudable. Basically the whole DIY scene which is one of the only vaguely interesting things that has happened in digital audio in the last decade, follows on the heals of small traditional analogue specialist Hi-Fi companies like Linn, Naim , Arcam , Goldmund etc entering the CD market 20 years ago, a good 10 years after it's inception. By which time of course DVD was just starting to kick in the mainstream and the R&D depts of the majors had all moved on to HD or Blue-Ray.
It's a technology trickle-down effect created by mass production which has allowed a DIY culture of drawing on different concepts from the whole product cycle of CD giving rise to NOS DACs and suchlike. Interesting stuff and great that industrialising music replay on this level hasn't killed the opportunities for the talented individual engineer to contribute, which many people thought that it might.
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How can a company proclaim they are research leaders and then not do any for there products? They advertise this! After reading their oh so pleasant response to headfiers, their attitude is clear so why defend them. Especially when they say nowhere that they use the whole d**m Pioneer player!
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I'm not defending them per se I'm merely wondering why they have been singled out for such a lambasting when they are just doing what many similarly sized companies in "High End" audio are doing, trying to address the marketplace and keep the accountants off their backs whilst spending their time making madly overengineered turntables and CD players sound as good as they possibly can.
As I said before, I am surprised that they would offer a product like this at this price level at all as it is devaluing their brand if anything.
People expect uberengineered esoterica from Swiss brands like Studer, Revox, Goldmund and Nagra and offering anything less seems like they're selling themselves short.
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If guys like Modwright can make a $2000 Sony player sound like a $20000 player doing mods, and I mean some of the most respected mods and preamps in the busines, for a lot less why should Goldmund get the right to screw you? Modwright player are STILL CALLED Sony or Denon modded players and he does a lot to them like separate SS or tube rect. PS, full tube output from the DAC out. In fact, I don't know of a single professional modder that changes changes the name and just re-cases a player.
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This comes down to intellectual property rights and, at least in Europe, very strict controls on the percentage of a CE product that has to have been assembled or manufactured to be allowed to say "Made in Germany" for example.
Modwright can charge less because they have probably done a deal whereby they add their logo to a Sony product. Sony keeps the IP and gets hardcore engineering kudos from having their equipment promoted in the DIY community and Modwright get to mess with cool Sony technology and make a small profit.
To actually license the right to sell Sony's patented technology under your own brandname would be a bit more expensive, hence the difference between your 2000USD and 20,000USD player a cynic might be tempted to say
. In fact various pundits have pointed to the fact that the driving force behind the development of newer and "better" optical disc formats has been to maintain Philips/Sony IP rights...