[stormwrx]

Interesting review of the Devialet Gemini:



I am digging the reviewer’s EQ setting, especially with the Final Audio Type E TWS tips - clarity and balance seem improved:

 

[cattboy]

That train has been halted for a time. There is not good way to use the codec. There are, like four apps that contain the codec (because it hasn't been implemented into the android system except on a couple phones), but they are VERY spotty, or crappy, or don't even work at best. I would love to give it a try, because I have some Hifiman Deva that have the ability to use that codec, but....

Plus the ONLY transmitters for that codec are mobile phones.

That I've found atleast :/

 

[miserybeforethemusic]

I don't understand why people like the heavy bassy sound tbh. It gives me a headache if the bass is too powerful. Perhaps it has to do with the genre people listen to - rap and heavy metal very often gets extremely bass heavy. I don't listen to much rap or heavy metal personally. Often you can't even hear the lyrics when it gets very bass heavy, but some people still enjoy that.

Makes more sense when you're out and about; city streets tend to drown out bass on pairs that don't isolate as well. Either that or I legitimately know people who enjoy sticking their heads into the ports of subwoofer stacks at concerts.

Those guys are crazy.

 

[samandhi]

Makes more sense when you're out and about; city streets tend to drown out bass on pairs that don't isolate as well. Either that or I legitimately know people who enjoy sticking their heads into the ports of subwoofer stacks at concerts.

Those guys are crazy.

LOL Funny thing is I used to be that way (basically)....

 

[X-Nemesis]

 

[bronco1015]

They are well worth it (and actually more IMO). Do let us know how they sound. V-Moda was considered one of the best headphones to get for the fun side for many years. The only reason I never pulled the trigger then was because they were just too bass heavy for my tastes.

Been a while since i've been on Head-Fi except quick bursts here and there. I forgot to mention the Forza metalo were definitely worth the purchase. I knew they were not the typical V-Moda bass heavy sound, but these are even less so than the AZ70. in posts where i've seen you mention wanting more bass from the N6P, the Forza Metalo Wireless take a bit to get used to the sound, for me anyway but they are great. I bet you'd like the sound.
Also, I bought a Deva and OMG I'm pleasantly surprised. They are honestly a solid pair of headphones.

 

[samandhi]

Been a while since i've been on Head-Fi except quick bursts here and there. I forgot to mention the Forza metalo were definitely worth the purchase. I knew they were not the typical V-Moda bass heavy sound, but these are even less so than the AZ70. in posts where i've seen you mention wanting more bass from the N6P, the Forza Metalo Wireless take a bit to get used to the sound, for me anyway but they are great. I bet you'd like the sound.
Also, I bought a Deva and OMG I'm pleasantly surprised. They are honestly a solid pair of headphones.

WB! And, Thanks for the rec. I will check them out.

IKR? IMO this is BT done right, and not that much cash really if you think about what you are getting.

 

[potix]

I grabbed a pair of PI7 on amazon warehouse during the last prime days, with a good 30% discount on their used/very good price, and I guess this helps me giving a non-biased judgement.
I didn't expect such a v-shape signature and boomy sound from the most premium tws, I'm not a basshead but I like some bass hint on hearphones, sometimes. All of the reviews are misleading or ambiguous in my opinion, they are like "it's a v-shape sound but there are worst cases". No, a product at this price point should be more than "better than the worst", in every aspect.
So I started (again, as I've been doing it in the last months) looking for a PI7 frequency response, and I found a comparison made by Oluv on youtube where he shows his measurements. I used it for creating an autoeq file for wavelet that I'm posting here; the compensation has been hand made in primeeq, so it isn't perfect. I'll probably keep working on it.
I was aware of how batteries, software, volume, connectivity, bt range and touch controls are also poor in PI7s, so I won't complain about it but I need to point it out one more time to people reading this post.
I am undecided whether to keep them or not, although I paid 130€ less than their price. I can barely accept hard eqing a premium product, that furthermore have other shortcomings and flaws. I am a bit "PI"$**d off .

GraphicEQ: 20 -7.2; 21 -7.1; 22 -7.1; 23 -7.0; 24 -6.9; 26 -6.7; 27 -6.6; 29 -6.5; 30 -6.5; 32 -6.4; 34 -6.4; 36 -6.4; 38 -6.4; 40 -6.4; 43 -6.4; 45 -6.4; 48 -6.3; 50 -6.3; 53 -6.3; 56 -6.3; 59 -6.3; 63 -6.3; 66 -6.3; 70 -6.3; 74 -6.3; 78 -6.3; 83 -6.3; 87 -6.3; 92 -6.6; 97 -7.6; 103 -7.6; 109 -7.3; 115 -6.7; 121 -6.5; 128 -6.8; 136 -7.0; 143 -7.0; 151 -6.9; 160 -6.9; 169 -6.8; 178 -6.7; 188 -6.5; 199 -6.3; 210 -6.1; 222 -5.9; 235 -5.7; 248 -5.5; 262 -5.2; 277 -4.8; 292 -4.5; 309 -4.0; 326 -3.5; 345 -3.0; 364 -2.4; 385 -1.9; 406 -1.4; 429 -1.0; 453 -0.6; 479 -0.2; 506 +0.1; 534 +0.4; 565 +0.6; 596 +0.9; 630 +1.1; 665 +1.3; 703 +1.4; 743 +1.5; 784 +1.5; 829 +1.5; 875 +1.5; 924 +1.4; 977 +1.4; 1032 +1.3; 1090 +1.2; 1151 +1.2; 1216 +1.1; 1284 +1.1; 1357 +1.1; 1433 +1.0; 1514 +1.0; 1599 +1.0; 1689 +1.0; 1784 +1.0; 1885 +1.0; 1991 +1.1; 2103 +1.2; 2221 +1.2; 2347 +1.4; 2479 +1.3; 2618 +1.4; 2766 +1.2; 2921 +0.8; 3086 +0.3; 3260 -0.1; 3443 -0.1; 3637 +0.2; 3842 +0.6; 4058 +1.1; 4287 +1.5; 4528 +1.9; 4783 +2.1; 5052 +2.3; 5337 +2.9; 5637 +3.0; 5955 +1.4; 6290 -0.9; 6644 -1.7; 7018 +0.3; 7414 +2.0; 7831 +3.1; 8272 +3.6; 8738 +2.9; 9230 +1.2; 9749 -2.7; 10298 -8.6; 10878 -11.3; 11490 -13.3; 12137 -17.0; 12821 -20.0; 13543 -17.4; 14305 -14.0; 15110 -11.1; 15961 -8.8; 16860 -6.9; 17809 -5.1; 18812 -3.8; 19871 -2.5

Copy and paste in a txt file and import it in the autoeq section of wavelet; import and search for it (type the name of the txt file and wait few seconds for it to appear) then search it again with the icon at the right of "headphone model". Set a -4.5db for both buds in "Channel balance" to avoid clipping.

 

[bronco1015]

WB! And, Thanks for the rec. I will check them out.

IKR? IMO this is BT done right, and not that much cash really if you think about what you are getting.

Thanks! No prob. I totally agree. The Deva are an easy recommend, and they don't equal or exceed the cost of a morgage payment like so many other headphones do these days.

 

[TK33]

I grabbed a pair of PI7 on amazon warehouse during the last prime days, with a good 30% discount on their used/very good price, and I guess this helps me giving a non-biased judgement.
I didn't expect such a v-shape signature and boomy sound from the most premium tws, I'm not a basshead but I like some bass hint on hearphones, sometimes. All of the reviews are misleading or ambiguous in my opinion, they are like "it's a v-shape sound but there are worst cases". No, a product at this price point should be more than "better than the worst", in every aspect.
So I started (again, as I've been doing it in the last months) looking for a PI7 frequency response, and I found a comparison made by Oluv on youtube where he shows his measurements. I used it for creating an autoeq file for wavelet that I'm posting here; the compensation has been hand made in primeeq, so it isn't perfect. I'll probably keep working on it, I don't know if it causes clipping.
I was aware of how batteries, software, volume, bt range and touch controls are also poor in PI7s, so I won't complain about it but I need to point it out one more time to people reading this post.
I am undecided whether to keep them or not, although I paid 130€ less than their price. I can barely accept hard eqing a premium product, that furthermore have other shortcomings and flaws. I am a bit "PI"$**d off .


Copy and paste in a txt file and import it in the autoeq section of wavelet; import and search for it (type the name of the txt file) then search it again with the icon at the right of "headphone model".

Are you using stock tips? They have a filter in there that makes the PI7s sound very warm (sucks out the treble). I would not describe them as V shaped. I am using Spinfits and like the sound much better compared to the stock tips.

 

[jasonb]

Got the Melomania Touch's from UPS and have been listening/trying different tips and EQ settings. I'm having an issue where every time I move my head or my jaw the sound changes, and this is the same with pretty much every well fitting silicone tip I have. The only thing that doesn't do this are memory foam tips. The tips I've settled on so far are actually the foam tips that came with the old Lypertek Tevi that I sold a while ago. They fit well, seal well, the sound doesn't change when I move my head or jaw, and these are short enough to fit in the charging case. I ordered another set of memory foam tips that are super short on Amazon. I have no problem using foam tips, but I just know these old Lypertek Tevi tips aren't going to last. Memory foam doesn't last, and these are already a couple years old.

Anyway, they sound good with some EQ. I guess I'm just not a basshead as I'm still adding mids and highs and reducing the bass. I did not expect to have to EQ out this much bass, but the EQ in the app works well, so whatever. This is the EQ I've been doing so far with the foam tips. It's a nice impactful and tight bass, but just a bit too much for me for the music I listen to. The mids and highs are great though, but I just wanted a tad more.

 

[BooleanBones]

Got the Melomania Touch's from UPS and have been listening/trying different tips and EQ settings. I'm having an issue where every time I move my head or my jaw the sound changes, and this is the same with pretty much every well fitting silicone tip I have. The only thing that doesn't do this are memory foam tips. The tips I've settled on so far are actually the foam tips that came with the old Lypertek Tevi that I sold a while ago. They fit well, seal well, the sound doesn't change when I move my head or jaw, and these are short enough to fit in the charging case. I ordered another set of memory foam tips that are super short on Amazon. I have no problem using foam tips, but I just know these old Lypertek Tevi tips aren't going to last. Memory foam doesn't last, and these are already a couple years old.

I am using some Azla Crystals on mine and am really glad I swapped out the stocks as I had similar seal issues. I used some spinfit 360s as well, but like the Crystals (thanks to @miserybeforethemusic) a bit better. My only complaint so far with the MTs is that transparency mode is disabled when talking on calls. I think that is by design, but not played with that a ton. Enjoy.

 

[jasonb]

I am using some Azla Crystals on mine and am really glad I swapped out the stocks as I had similar seal issues. I used some spinfit 360s as well, but like the Crystals (thanks to @miserybeforethemusic) a bit better. My only complaint so far with the MTs is that transparency mode is disabled when talking on calls. I think that is by design, but not played with that a ton. Enjoy.

I never talk on the phone so I probably won't care about that. If the foam tips don't end up working out I may try the azla crystals. I've used other azla tips with the WF-1000xm3 I used to have, and had good results.

So far I am liking what I'm hearing out of these Melomania Touch's so far. Very good detail, texture, and clarity for a Bluetooth IEM, that's for sure.

And the sub-bass, even with the bass EQ'ed down like I have it is still insanely fun when a song calls for it.

 

[turbobb]

Can I be annoying and bring this up again? You can also try on spotify

Confirmed this with SoundPeats TrueAir2; no distortion with AAC exactly as you said.

 

[miserybeforethemusic]

Can I be annoying and bring this up again? You can also try on spotify

Sorry I'm late on this. Just confirmed with a set of CX400BT. Audible distortion at about 12k with aptX, none with AAC.

Maybe it's a gain thing?

I never talk on the phone so I probably won't care about that. If the foam tips don't end up working out I may try the azla crystals. I've used other azla tips with the WF-1000xm3 I used to have, and had good results.

So far I am liking what I'm hearing out of these Melomania Touch's so far. Very good detail, texture, and clarity for a Bluetooth IEM, that's for sure.

And the sub-bass, even with the bass EQ'ed down like I have it is still insanely fun when a song calls for it.

Sounds like my learning curve when I started. Are you trying to go as deep in as a traditional IEM? These like a shallower fit, where it just sits on the opening of your ear canal (at least in my experience). The hook does the rest of the work for me.

I like the Crystals with them, too. 50/50 with those and the Final TWS, but I think the tackier silicone of the Crystal will be a better option for your fit issues. Not much of a sonic difference between the two.