[Canabuc]

The Fiil t1 pro ranks at the top of my tws pile now for sound quality, with the buds pro close behind. T1 pro has clear and natural highs and mids. The bass hits deep and is very fluid.

Can you recommend any EQ settings?

 

[543293]

Anyone using Fiil T1PRO have any EQ settings they can recommend?
They are really good sounding with more bass than I expected based on every one saying the earfun free pro is tuned for more bass out of the same bud. I find even in the treble preset there is plenty of bass. It is not quite to 75t level but easily matches 85t and can surpass it in bass boost mode over stock 85t settings..

Hello, new user here and owner of the FIILs. I'd like to share this EQ setting for the T1 Pro. If possible, may T1 Pro users please try this configuration in the FIIL app and let me know how it sounds? This aims for a deeper, bigger bass while retaining control, raises the lower mids a fair amount to boost warmth while keeping clear of muddiness, and slightly reduces the treble peaks present from 2k to 8k in the T1 Pro. Essentially, this aims to achieve the best of both worlds: the earfun free pro bassy sound without the somewhat-intrusive and sloppy bass, and the fiil t1 lite balanced sound with reduced treble harshness. (Note: I use the stock eartips on the T1 pros)

https://imgur.com/a/tijTktr

For precise values, you may input these on a digital EQ app:
30 = +3.5 db or +3 db
60 = +3.5 db or +3 db
125 = +3.5 db or +3 db
250 = +1.5 db
500 = 0 db
1k = 0 db
2k = -1 db
4k = -3 db to -2 db
8k = -3 db or -2 db
16k = 0 db

EDIT: cut for 4k and 8k changed to range from -2 to -3. The former to preserve more presence and detail, the latter for less fatigue and added bass presence. Also changed to +3 db for bands from 30 to 125, less mud and more natural sounding lows.

 

[mbk]

This is the best I could do with my phone's camera.

Grado size S on the left, Sennheiser size XS on the right.


Comparison between Grado size S, Sennheiser size S and XS.

Dimensions are similar as you can tell. Sennheiser S is a little taller than Grado S. I use the Sennheiser XS on my Grado's.

I'm not sure why they sound different as I did have a good fit with the Grado ear tips. I suspect maybe the silicone is different? The Grados do feel a little flimsy compared to the Senns which are a little more dense.

I highly recommend the Sennheiser tips though if you're not happy with the sound. They can be had for $11 directly from Sennheiser.

***I tried the stock ones again just now just for kicks and I immediately could hear the droney overpowering bass.

All sizes out of stock in Sennheiser site. Since you have the different sizes of both, which Sennheiser size is most comparable to the Grado medium? That’s what fits me the best.

 

[Canabuc]

Hello, new user here and owner of the FIILs. I'd like to share this EQ setting for the T1 Pro. If possible, may T1 Pro users please try this configuration in the FIIL app and let me know how it sounds? This aims for a deeper, bigger bass while retaining control, raises the lower mids a fair amount to boost warmth while keeping clear of muddiness, and slightly reduces the treble peaks present from 2k to 8k in the T1 Pro. Essentially, this aims to achieve the best of both worlds: the earfun free pro bassy sound without the somewhat-intrusive and sloppy bass, and the fiil t1 lite balanced sound with reduced treble harshness. (Note: I use the stock eartips on the T1 pros)

https://imgur.com/a/tijTktr

For precise values, you may input these on a digital EQ app:
30 = +3.5 db
60 = +3.5 db
125 = +3.5 db
250 = +1.5 db
500 = 0 db
1k = 0 db
2k = -1 db
4k = -3 db
8k = -3 db
16k = 0 db

Tried it was nice but felt I needed more treble than that but agree to drop the mids and I boosted upper treble to get more detail

 

[SemiAudiophile]

All sizes out of stock in Sennheiser site. Since you have the different sizes of both, which Sennheiser size is most comparable to the Grado medium? That’s what fits me the best.

I would go with the Small ear tip. The height is about the same as the Grado Medium maybe just a tiny bit taller, but the Grado's are fatter as well.

The Sennheiser Mediums are surprisingly shorter than both but fatter than the Grados.

I guess it depends on your fit? If you want it to be deeper in your ear or if you want better seal?

 

[regancipher]

Some new reviews from me, kinda difficult without a working phone but about ten or so to upload, here's the first four:

Tronsmart Q10
Taotronics Soundliberty 80
FIIL CC2
Soundcore Q30

 

[tinyman392]

@SemiAudiophile those Sennheiser tips look similar to some generic ones that HiFiMan used to offer with their IEMs. I think Heir Audio (from like 5 years ago) did the same. They were very good tips though. HiFiMan no longer offers those tips and Heir Audio doesn't exist anymore, the main person in charge went on to create Noble Audio.

 

[erockg]

Man, I just got the Grado's and I'm comparing them to my Devialet Gemini. They are killer. Less features, but man, they do sound good.

 

[Forceberg]

Man, I just got the Grado's and I'm comparing them to my Devialet Gemini. They are killer. Less features, but man, they do sound good.

intersting! Im looking to replace my faulty Geminis. Waiting for the KEF Mu3. Would you say the Grado’s sound better than Geminis?

 

[Canabuc]

First few listens with MTW2. I know late to the party.
Expected more to be honest.
Bass is good. Vocals good. Wide soundstage.
But lower mids seemed like the bass bled into them. Volume is low too had to go to over 80% whereas the Jabra would need 65 and the Fiil 70.

Once EQ'd I really enjoy the Fiil t1 pro sound. Similar to Jabra when both EQ'd but with the treble detail being a bit better.

Outside of the Chinese app and a case lid that closes too easy all the time these are quite the steal.

ANC and ambient are not class leading but full controls great fit and comfort and sound with Qi charging and a tiny case for 60$! US

 

[erockg]

intersting! Im looking to replace my faulty Geminis. Waiting for the KEF Mu3. Would you say the Grado’s sound better than Geminis?

Yeah, I just packed up my Gemini's for a return. I'll revisit when they fix things. I think the Grado's sound more natural, but still listening. The soundstage is comparable and the fit is also more secure. I bought them from Crutchfield here in the US. They shipped FAST.

 

[DigDub]

Can you recommend any EQ settings?

I leave it at flat.

 

[mbk]

I would go with the Small ear tip. The height is about the same as the Grado Medium maybe just a tiny bit taller, but the Grado's are fatter as well.

The Sennheiser Mediums are surprisingly shorter than both but fatter than the Grados.

I guess it depends on your fit? If you want it to be deeper in your ear or if you want better seal?

That pic is great. I’m more towards the Grado S tip so I’ll probably start with the Senn S once I can find them.

Glad a bunch of people are discovering the Grado... they’re really good.

 

[howdy]

My next purchase will be the Samsung Galaxy pro. I'm jumping in on the Samsung wagon and will soon be getting the S21 ultra. Samsung has really seemed to step it up!

 

[clerkpalmer]

It's a good time to be alive. I have the Noble Falcon Pro and the Devialet Gemini engaged in a fight to the death. Both of these TWS sound excellent with a dynamic fun sound. It's really close. Both are v shaped and both offer an EQ in the app to sculpt the sound (the Falcon responds better to EQ). If I had to choose one to live with on an island, I'd probably take the Gemini but not without second thoughts. They sound just a bit more musical and cohesive to me overall with the added bonus of ANC. Out of the box and without any EQ they sound terrific. The sub bass is present with very little bleed and there is a little bit of warmth to them. They can be a little shouty but this doesn't usually both me at my age (46 with tinnitus). I prefer the sizzle to rolled off highs. They remind me of the excellent MW07 but on steroids.

The Falcon Pro are superb in their own right. The bass hits hard and fast although perhaps just a bit less sub bass. They win in terms of clarity and detail. They also win in terms of soundstage. While I was concerned about the stem length being too long on the Pro, I actually prefer the fit to the Gemini. They isolate better and stay put while the Gemini are constantly sliding around when I'm moving. Noble gets extra points for immediately pairing and updating via the iPhone APP.

Both of these TWS showcase just how good TWS can sound if price is not an object. I may just have to keep both.