[botmann]

... If not, for arround 100 bucks, with either LDAC or APTX adaptive, what ANC TWSs are? ...

I would suggest checking out SoundPeats. The different models tend to slight different sound/tone; some are bassier, better separation, and so forth. For cheap TWS, they have a decent sound. I like them because they can be really cheap, so you don't care much if stolen or broken. Since the batteries cannot be replaced in these TWS catagory, I'm not into spending much money. SoundPeats don't have a good mobile app; it's functional. The ANC works, but it's nothing like Sony's stuff.

 

[absolutnie]

That's probably the effect that I am observing. They are not smooth. The individual components of the bass and treble are superior to the AZ80 but putting them all together doesn't seem to work for me. You said it better than me and maybe I just need to adjust to that. Edit- after thinking it through, most of my IEMs have been signle-driver. I have owned a few cheapie multi-drivers but mostly just to mess around with. So yeah, everything I've owned has been a single driver.

got the exact experience with multi driver units. bizarre, uneven. in separation the frequency response bands are great but overall they somehow do not lineup nicely. drivers crossover regions perhaps?

 

[james444]

That's probably the effect that I am observing. They are not smooth. The individual components of the bass and treble are superior to the AZ80 but putting them all together doesn't seem to work for me. You said it better than me and maybe I just need to adjust to that. Edit- after thinking it through, most of my IEMs have been signle-driver. I have owned a few cheapie multi-drivers but mostly just to mess around with. So yeah, everything I've owned has been a single driver.

got the exact experience with multi driver units. bizarre, uneven. in separation the frequency response bands are great but overall they somehow do not lineup nicely. drivers crossover regions perhaps?

Same here. Could be frequency response unevenness or timing issues. DDs and BAs have different transient characteristics and I've never heard a DD / BA hybrid that sounded totally coherent to my ears. On the other hand, I feel that coaxial DD / planar hybrids like the Oppo Enco X2 and Huawei Freebuds Pro2 sound fine.

 

[bronco1015]

What I have been waiting for
https://www.getnews.info/1324043/fi...ds-for-lossless-audio-arriving-june-15th.html

10mm driver with 2 balanced armatures with Aptx Lossless

nice! I'd potentially give these a shot, Reviewed the hifiAir last year and they were a great budget model.

 

[clerkpalmer]

Same here. Could be frequency response unevenness or timing issues. DDs and BAs have different transient characteristics and I've never heard a DD / BA hybrid that sounded totally coherent to my ears. On the other hand, I feel that coaxial DD / planar hybrids like the Oppo Enco X2 and Huawei Freebuds Pro2 sound fine.

Glad I’m not completely deaf and/or insane.

 

[subguy812]

That's probably the effect that I am observing. They are not smooth. The individual components of the bass and treble are superior to the AZ80 but putting them all together doesn't seem to work for me. You said it better than me and maybe I just need to adjust to that. Edit- after thinking it through, most of my IEMs have been signle-driver. I have owned a few cheapie multi-drivers but mostly just to mess around with. So yeah, everything I've owned has been a single driver.

What you are describing is incoherency. While I haven't noticed any coherency issues blatantly, let me listen.

 

[fusionramjet]

It was really cool of them.

Would an audio transmitter like the Nura one solve Bluetooth cutout issues?

Got a NTP to work and I think I prefer the sound over the Fokus Pro. But the cutouts are crazy.

And what transmitter would be the smallest and best for running (don't want to knock it out mid run)

Strangely, my NTP hasn’t had any cutout issues (I use an iPhone). The only problem I have is I can’t get them to fit comfortably.

 

[subguy812]

Strangely, my NTP hasn’t had any cutout issues (I use an iPhone). The only problem I have is I can’t get them to fit comfortably.

I loved the sound and could have dealt with the fit, but the cutouts were horrible. Be glad you got a pair that worked for you, because there was no support available.

 

[fusionramjet]

I loved the sound and could have dealt with the fit, but the cutouts were horrible. Be glad you got a pair that worked for you, because there was no support available.

I didn’t know I was so lucky!
I wonder what % of them have connection issues.

 

[Evshrug]

Usually feels like a large % when it happens to you… but it is one of the potential bugbears of TWS. Especially outdoors, and/or when operating un-shielded machinery (I always get a few stutters with my TWS when I use a string trimmer/weed whacker). Sometimes mine work well for tens of minutes on end though, so it’s a bit of a mystery to me

 

[Gilroypro]

I loved the sound and could have dealt with the fit, but the cutouts were horrible. Be glad you got a pair that worked for you, because there was no support available.

There was minimal sound cutoffs at 1st but only one update released and fixed my Nuratrue Pros

 

[Gilroypro]

nice! I'd potentially give these a shot, Reviewed the hifiAir last year and they were a great budget model.

I'm a big sucker for 2BA drivers. Aviot TB-LTDPNK, Soundbeats Opera 5 and Noble Fokus Pro. Definitely trying these out since Aptx lossless is there

 

[fusionramjet]

I'm a big sucker for 2BA drivers. Aviot TB-LTDPNK, Soundbeats Opera 5 and Noble Fokus Pro. Definitely trying these out since Aptx lossless is there

I saw this on Amazon Japan. AVIOT TE-Z1PNK.​

Dynamic and Planar.
Looks interesting

 

[clerkpalmer]

I saw this on Amazon Japan. AVIOT TE-Z1PNK.​

Dynamic and Planar.
Looks interesting

They look awfully large.

 

[Gilroypro]

I saw this on Amazon Japan. AVIOT TE-Z1PNK.​

Dynamic and Planar.
Looks interesting

They look awfully large.

I have those too. The tuning is better on the Z1PNK but they are not as loud as the LTDPNK.