Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Sep 27, 2022 at 11:43 PM Post #47,986 of 50,638

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I just got them in and they haven't succeeded. It's just another avg TWS. The ANC is ok, not much better. I'm underwhelmed. The tonality is better than their previous stuff, but it technically sucks balls. lol.

Maybe one day I will run into a TWS with good technicalities. I'm generally underwhelmed by BT products. Nothing all that exciting sound wise. It's just for utility. That is all. APP 2's sound suppression thing seems cool.
Now you just made me sad... LOL

We're you a le to try the Samsung hires codec? If so what did you notice different?

I just ordered the pair and it's coming from Samsung and they say they are backlogged so I will some time to cancel if I want.

@DigDub keep giving your impressions. BTW did you the original GBuds Pro? If so how do they compare? I own them and do like their sound for the most part which is part of why I am giving these a try to see how the hires codec sounds.
 
Sep 27, 2022 at 11:46 PM Post #47,987 of 50,638

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I just got them in and they haven't succeeded. It's just another avg TWS. The ANC is ok, not much better. I'm underwhelmed. The tonality is better than their previous stuff, but it technically sucks balls. lol.

Maybe one day I will run into a TWS with good technicalities. I'm generally underwhelmed by BT products. Nothing all that exciting sound wise. It's just for utility. That is all. APP 2's sound suppression thing seems cool.
Have you tried TWS adapters such as the Shure TW2? Currently using mine and they definitely sound better than any other TWS but it all depends also what IEMs you’re hooking them up to.
But all in all they sound as good as wired IEMs.
 
Sep 27, 2022 at 11:48 PM Post #47,988 of 50,638

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Now you just made me sad... LOL

We're you a le to try the Samsung hires codec? If so what did you notice different?

I just ordered the pair and it's coming from Samsung and they say they are backlogged so I will some time to cancel if I want.

@DigDub keep giving your impressions. BTW did you the original GBuds Pro? If so how do they compare? I own them and do like their sound for the most part which is part of why I am giving these a try to see how the hires codec sounds.
Sorry, I feel like I led you on or something. I just saw Crin's post, and garnered some interest and tried it out, and turned out to be underwhelming.

I really don't care what the codec is as long as it's minimum AAC level. There really is no lossless codec out there. FLAC is still a fairly high bitrate compared to any BT codecs out there. I think with BT there is the issue of signal quality variations through time. That's why codecs are generally adaptive.

Even Samsung's 'seamless' codec is pretty much marketing concept that doesn't improve the quality significant enough. It sounds to be like another adaptive codec that has a bandwidth cap. Sure, some codecs are more efficient than others like AAC.

I have tried putting LDAC on fixed bitrate, the signal gets degraded depending on the environment. Which is why LDAC is defaulted to be adaptive like other codecs. In reality, it doesn't not function like advertised. The bitrate varies with a low cap. This is to hide noticeable signal degradation effects.
 
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Sep 28, 2022 at 12:02 AM Post #47,989 of 50,638

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Now you just made me sad... LOL

We're you a le to try the Samsung hires codec? If so what did you notice different?

I just ordered the pair and it's coming from Samsung and they say they are backlogged so I will some time to cancel if I want.

@DigDub keep giving your impressions. BTW did you the original GBuds Pro? If so how do they compare? I own them and do like their sound for the most part which is part of why I am giving these a try to see how the hires codec sounds.

i recently tried the samsung buds pro 2 on an audio meet, a friend brought his unit. I only tested it briefly and only focusing on the sound (didn't test the anc, ambient, and other features)
i think it sounded really good..similar tuning as the previous G buds, but with a calmer treble. I like the smaller size too
 
Sep 28, 2022 at 1:18 AM Post #47,990 of 50,638

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Now you just made me sad... LOL

We're you a le to try the Samsung hires codec? If so what did you notice different?

I just ordered the pair and it's coming from Samsung and they say they are backlogged so I will some time to cancel if I want.

@DigDub keep giving your impressions. BTW did you the original GBuds Pro? If so how do they compare? I own them and do like their sound for the most part which is part of why I am giving these a try to see how the hires codec sounds.
I have the buds pro as well. The buds pro has more elevated bass and treble which makes for a more exciting sound. The buds2 pro sounds more refined and less fatiguing. I find myself enjoy listening the buds2 pro for a longer stretch. The bass is pretty unique, unlike most earbuds that adds bass to everything, the bass on the buds2 pro appears only when necessary, and when they show up, it rumbles deep and impactful.
 
Sep 28, 2022 at 1:27 AM Post #47,991 of 50,638

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I keep swapping tips on mine and then wind up going back to the stock silicone large! Glad you dig them. They're great.
They really are hahaha. Usually with IEMs people switch tips a lot, so I'm really surprised the stock silicone tips seems to be the most universally well-loved ones for the EXs haha
 
Sep 28, 2022 at 6:39 AM Post #47,992 of 50,638

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Also received... Let's try out these bad boys.

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Sep 28, 2022 at 7:17 AM Post #47,993 of 50,638

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Sep 28, 2022 at 7:38 AM Post #47,994 of 50,638

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Bought a pair of Liberty 3 Pro's from a dude on a local Android forum, and wouldn't you know it... EXTREME channel imbalance. Went into wavelet and had to lower the right earbuds volume by about 8-9 dB to make them even in volume... I felt like I got fooled like you wouldn't believe it.
Fortunately the guy I bought them from seems to be a class act and instantly sent me my money back and said that I could keep the earbuds as well. But I managed to convince him to try and RMA/send the earbuds in as a warranty claim so he can hopefully get a new set of earbuds sent out to him that he can sell for a higher price than the ones he sold to me.
It was lucky that neither of us were crappy people, I guess?
 
Sep 28, 2022 at 10:08 AM Post #47,995 of 50,638

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I also got the ATH-TWX9!

First initial impressions are mostly positive.

Sound quality is to my liking, but haven't found the right tip just yet.

Build quality seems great, the app have many settings. I'm loving that the ATH-TWX9 have both touch and a button on each stem. Will be very useful to activate the quick hear through when I'm at work without having to take my work gloves off!

But I'd love to se fully customizable controls... Also the LED on the case is very bright. 😂
 
Sep 28, 2022 at 11:22 AM Post #47,996 of 50,638

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Give them a whirl...nice package.
First impressions:

1. Nice packing indeed. Very premium. Solid build,
2. Very comfortable. Haven't tried different tips, but stock installed ones work perfectly.
3. Sound: when I first played them, I thought they sound a bit congested and rather bloated. I then realized the noise cancelling was on and set to "airplane" mode, which seem to raise mid-bass. Turning everything off gives a much clearer presentation. Overall presentation is rather linear, quite conservative I'd say. I hear an airy but not sparkly top end, flattish mids, and a fairly linear bass end with a slight mid-bass hump. Technically, they have a fairly solid performance with a good sense of stage. Imaging and layering are what one would expect.

I'm not too familiar with TWS though I've owned recent ones by Sony, Senn, and Final. I'd say these are certainly in the upper tier. That said, they remain at the quality of TWS earphones. I would not classify the presentation as "audiophile." Compared to the $100 IE100 Pro, the latter are better in every respect. Someone earlier made a reference to IE900 above. You may prefer the tuning of the TWX9 in terms of being warmer as a matter of personal taste, but otherwise there's no correlation whatsoever between these models.

As TWS earphones, however, they're very good - I can see them being put to good use for general use; podcasts, music, films, etc.
 
Sep 28, 2022 at 1:40 PM Post #47,997 of 50,638

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I have the buds pro as well. The buds pro has more elevated bass and treble which makes for a more exciting sound. The buds2 pro sounds more refined and less fatiguing. I find myself enjoy listening the buds2 pro for a longer stretch. The bass is pretty unique, unlike most earbuds that adds bass to everything, the bass on the buds2 pro appears only when necessary, and when they show up, it rumbles deep and impactful.
Thanks that helps alot! so these will be less warm but hit hard when it's in the song. Very AKG like, if they are less fatiguing I think thats a positive as AKG house sound can be fatiguing. I think I am going to give them a whirl as I am a but of an AKG fan boy. They will be a stark contrast to the Sony Linkbuds S and Technics AZ60. They might be more like the AZ70.
 
Sep 28, 2022 at 1:44 PM Post #47,999 of 50,638

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Definately smooth sig. Too smooth for my taste although I find some of the popular ones on this thread v-shaped and above my tolerable treble threshold. This one is directly opposite. It loses a bit of the nuances of the mids. Bass a bit boomy and greater than the level I prefer. This kind of bass quality is quite common among BT earphones.

I went for a run today with the GBP2, and my earphones rubs against the earphone causing conduction noise. A bit of an annoyance for such usage. Yeah, I'm not fan. It's mainly the price. Also, I have higher standards/expectations since TWS tech has been out for quite a while. I want to see some advancement in SQ or a significant price drop for the same tech. I probably be in hibernation for awhile until perhaps a game changer shows up some day.
 
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Sep 28, 2022 at 2:18 PM Post #48,000 of 50,638

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I hear you @SilverEars , improvement in sound quality seems hard to find. Not your fault I succumbed to buying my pair BTW 😎. I have a soft spot for Samsung/AKG and Sony so have been fighting the itch to buy these for a while. I should just wait for the inevitable price drop.

If I had any sense I would save my pennies and get one really good TWS or wait until a real game changer comes along.
 

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