Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Jul 20, 2022 at 4:35 PM Post #46,771 of 49,099

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Lots of things to like about this Bluetooth upgrade: BLE audio streaming, higher efficiency, lower power consumption, better battery life, potentially smaller earbuds.

However, the claim of "MUCH higher audio quality at the same bit rate" seems rather doubtful imo. Did anyone who listened to SBC@248 kbps and LC3@248 kbps hear a big difference? I for my part didn't.

So I downloaded the test tracks from here and here, compared them digitally with Audio DiffMaker and the difference seems actually quite small. Anyone interested can do the same, just install the freeware, run the test tracks and listen to the diff file.

Oh and btw, the test track called "no encoding" is actually FLAC encoded. Should sound the same as WAV though, except for golden ears.
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I think LC3+is what we are really waiting for. That is where the difference will truly be. They never really gave optimized higher bit rate SBC. I guess the problem will be getting it implemented. I guess on Android we will have it perhaps outside of Samsung phones which might only give LC3. Figure Apple will also only do what they are obligated to and not give LC3+. Sony as well on their devices. Figure they will c*ckblock the open source high bit rate stuff if they can.
 
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I don't see any reviews anywhere of the fokus H-Anc, which I find odd. It has been released already and no reviews?? Do people not know it is out?
Pretty sure they just started shipping today. Looks like mine was shipped and will be here Friday. Not sure if or how many Noble sends out to the reviewers out there.
 
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Any reason why you recommend the Freebuds Pro 2 over the Oppo Enco X2? Have you tried both and preferred the former?
Have the original Oppo Enco X and Huawei FBP and found the tuning and anc much more appealing on the Huawei. Recently tried the Oppo Enco X2 in Singapore while having the opportunity to try the new Huawei week and half ago in Europe. ANC with Huawei was noticeably improved , that surprised me a lot. Tuning was really great and was surprised until someone told me these were tuned by Devialet vs Dynaudio on Oppo. That was my take. Just simple recollection from experience
 
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Have the original Oppo Enco X and Huawei FBP and found the tuning and anc much more appealing on the Huawei. Recently tried the Oppo Enco X2 in Singapore while having the opportunity to try the new Huawei week and half ago in Europe. ANC with Huawei was noticeably improved , that surprised me a lot. Tuning was really great and was surprised until someone told me these were tuned by Devialet vs Dynaudio on Oppo. That was my take. Just simple recollection from experience

Yep the two have a partnership going...
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I think LC3+is what we are really waiting for. That is where the difference will truly be. They never really gave optimized higher bit rate SBC. I guess the problem will be getting it implemented. I guess on Android we will have it perhaps outside of Samsung phones which might only give LC3. Figure Apple will also only do what they are obligated to and not give LC3+. Sony as well on their devices. Figure they will c*ckblock the open source high bit rate stuff if they can.

The LC3 codec will be supported by Androïd 13:
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-13-may-add-blueooth-le-audio-support/
 
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Jul 20, 2022 at 9:29 PM Post #46,778 of 49,099

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Now that I can properly equalize them, my Bose SoundSports Frees are at the top of my collection. Yep they're big, non noise cancelling and not the best battery life, but they are winners...
I have two of them and looked for any QC deviation is sound, simply can't find any...
Bose should update these and bring them back even better. 👍
It's something about the open back design and chamber size, probably needs far less DSP as smaller close backs...
 
Jul 20, 2022 at 10:44 PM Post #46,779 of 49,099

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Have the original Oppo Enco X and Huawei FBP and found the tuning and anc much more appealing on the Huawei. Recently tried the Oppo Enco X2 in Singapore while having the opportunity to try the new Huawei week and half ago in Europe. ANC with Huawei was noticeably improved , that surprised me a lot. Tuning was really great and was surprised until someone told me these were tuned by Devialet vs Dynaudio on Oppo. That was my take. Just simple recollection from experience

Understood! May I ask where in Singapore did you try the Oppo Enco X2? I'm currently in Singapore right now.
 
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Anyone can do a comparison between the Noble Fokus pro and the Sony wf1000 xm4? I am contemplating to get either one of them. Thanks!
I have both, listen to both, but mainly use xm4 as my sleep iems now. I used to use xm4 over falcon pro because xm4 was more engaging and musical with its warmth and presentation. The Fokus does everything the xm4 does better. Still a warm overall presentation, but treble is present, bass is deep, sound is fun, but definitely overall more detailed. Of course no anc or ambient but passive isolation is good, IMO.
 

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