Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Mar 28, 2022 at 8:34 PM Post #44,086 of 49,099

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HAD. Devialet for sound, the Technics Az60 for everything else IMO. Although the ANC on the Gemini is pretty dang good.
I love everything about the Devialet except for the fit… they don’t stay very securely in my ears and I get a popping sound if I chew food or hit the treadmill

but the sound… oh my… only my B&O EQ sound that good
 
Mar 28, 2022 at 8:51 PM Post #44,087 of 49,099

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Noble Fokus Pro for the best sounding TWS in my house. Love them. Then we amp it up to the IEMs, Thieaudio Monarch MK2 and Legacy 4s on adapters. I have a few other TWS but small ones not geared for best sound. Here's my current lineup. No wild hairs this week for anything new... YET!
I wonder if the new Noble Falcon ANC will sound as good as the Fokus Pro?

 
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Z7 is flat out one of the best tws iems for sound quality. For the price it is ridiculous how capable the drivers are in this set. I've had these for over 6 months maybe more. I think if you want better sound in the tws world you'd have to look at the Fokus model by Noble and maybe the EQ (please note that this is my opinion). I have gotten rid of most of the big hitters out there (Gemini, Sony wf1000xm4, AZ60, Grado Gt220, Liberty 3 Pro, etc etc) in favor of the Z7. Although there are a few I have yet to try but the Z7 does compete well. So please take into consideration that I haven't heard everything out there and I'm sure some sets can do well against this set for SQ. I care about sound quality over everything else. I don't care about anc or a good ambient mode... However, that being said the Z7 also lacks anc and have an ambient mode that leaves alot to be desired. It has a nice app which gives you pretty good control as well. The Z7 react very well to an equalizer as these drivers just seem to take whatever you throw at them without distortion and the Z7 just have awesome control over the whole spectrum and extend really low. Just like the Tevi/Z3 the Z7 have more sub bass than mid bass (which I like) and have good extension up top. I think they get 11 hrs battery on the Buds. Another few things to note; the case is rather large, granted you get 70 hrs with the thing and also the Z7 are quite large themselves and stick out of the ear a bit. Also they are push button rather than touch. I can't say anything bad about the Z7. The tuning is almost a slightly airier Final Audio tuning but with EQ the these can change significantly. One last thing, I really believe the Titanium Driver in this set needs a good 50 hrs (at the very least) burn-in or listen-in and they may require different tips.
I wish the Z7 had ANC. Noisy baby in the house so that’s kind of a deal breaker for me
 
Mar 29, 2022 at 5:01 AM Post #44,092 of 49,099

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Do you have the Marshall’s my friend? How’s the ANC?
I have both the Mode II and the Motif.

The Mode II does not have ANC, while the Motif is the only Marshall TWS to have ANC. I haven't done any serious testing of the ANC but in general, I find it to be above average. I mostly use the Motif with the ANC switched on.
 
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I haven't been on here for quite a few weeks now I think, and the only answer as to why... is that I'm so pleased with my Technics AZ60 that I haven't bothered trying to find anything else new to purchase.
I'm curious to hear the verdict on the Sennheiser MTW3 vs AZ60, but I think I prefer the AZ60 vs the Sennheiser MTW2 sound-wise anyway.

The thing I just love about the AZ60 is that I rarely think about the sound much, the music just sounds kinda like I expect it to.
I know that there are even better sound experiences out there, but none that are worth it right now, especially since I can't get my hands on the Fokus Pros or anything like that, and otherwise it's the B&O EQs that are still way too expensive in my opinion.

I still want to upgrade to something new and shiny soon-ish, but I'm almost a bit happy that I don't see anything worth upgrading to right now.
 
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I haven't been on here for quite a few weeks now I think, and the only answer as to why... is that I'm so pleased with my Technics AZ60 that I haven't bothered trying to find anything else new to purchase.
I'm curious to hear the verdict on the Sennheiser MTW3 vs AZ60, but I think I prefer the AZ60 vs the Sennheiser MTW2 sound-wise anyway.

The thing I just love about the AZ60 is that I rarely think about the sound much, the music just sounds kinda like I expect it to.
I know that there are even better sound experiences out there, but none that are worth it right now, especially since I can't get my hands on the Fokus Pros or anything like that, and otherwise it's the B&O EQs that are still way too expensive in my opinion.

I still want to upgrade to something new and shiny soon-ish, but I'm almost a bit happy that I don't see anything worth upgrading to right now.

I feel you, I've also been very happy with my AZ60! Hopefully Panasonic will launch a new version later this year :) I really only "need" LE audio and wireless charging, further refinements to sound quality/comfort would also be welcome ofc.

The thing with the AZ60 is...They just tick almost every box , most TWS have 1 or more big flaws.

-SQ is pretty good (especially for the price)
-Touch controls works flawlessly (+customizable)
-The case is tiny (also great shape/materials)
- Switching between ANC/Transperecny mode is flawless (pause music option ftw)
-ANC is great
- The App is one of the better ones
-Comfort is decent
-Competitive price
-Multipoint

They are really the first overall flawless TWS in my opinion, I really only miss wireless charging. I'm sure BO EQ/Fokus Pro sounds better, but they are in no way as overall great as the AZ60.

The addition of LE audio would also be welcome ofc once LC3/LC3+ becomes more prevalent.
 
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I wonder if the new Noble Falcon ANC will sound as good as the Fokus Pro?

No wonder really. We know that they won't. Just in general from price. $169 vs. $349 and they will sound as good plus have ANC? Also hopefully Noble can give us something with three drivers that couldn't have just been done with a single dynamic. That is more what KZ does. :) As has been said from the name we know. Falcon line is the lesser line so why make it a Falcon model if it is better than the Falcon range.
 
Mar 29, 2022 at 11:48 AM Post #44,096 of 49,099

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I have been having trouble with TWS. I have gone through Sony WF1000XM4, buds pro, qcys, lypertek tevi. Problem is ear pressure. I have been using IEM for years but I am having this issues with TWS only.

Any suggestion on TWS with some pressure vent other than Airpods?
 
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No wonder really. We know that they won't. Just in general from price. $169 vs. $349 and they will sound as good plus have ANC? Also hopefully Noble can give us something with three drivers that couldn't have just been done with a single dynamic. That is more what KZ does. :) As has been said from the name we know. Falcon line is the lesser line so why make it a Falcon model if it is better than the Falcon range.
Hmm… wondering if I should cancel the ANC order. But who knows, maybe they’ll be superior to my current TWS favorites - B&O EQ and Gemini?

i like the Klipsch T5 II Mcclaren but i have this annoying issue where the case starts beeping if the charge goes below a certain level. It will not stop until you plug in the case or put it on a wireless charger

I’ll probably pick up the Nuratrue too
 
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Hmm… wondering if I should cancel the ANC order. But who knows, maybe they’ll be superior to my current TWS favorites - B&O EQ and Gemini?

i like the Klipsch T5 II Mcclaren but i have this annoying issue where the case starts beeping if the charge goes below a certain level. It will not stop until you plug in the case or put it on a wireless charger

I’ll probably pick up the Nuratrue too


I think my N6Pro 2 case started beeping one day and I wondered what the hell was going on. Never heard about that happening. At least it was that one time for whatever reason. :)

I think at least one person has the EQ and Fokus Pro. They can chime in with some idea to make a guesstimate.
 
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I think my N6Pro 2 case started beeping one day and I wondered what the hell was going on. Never heard about that happening. At least it was that one time for whatever reason. :)

I think at least one person has the EQ and Fokus Pro. They can chime in with some idea to make a guesstimate.
Awesome thanks! I’m not sure when the Falcon ANCs will arrive but I’ll let you guys know what I think.

I’m probably going to pick up the Fiio UTSW5. not sure what I’ll pair them with though. A guy on another thread suggested perhaps the Thieaudio Monarch MkII based on my musical tastes

https://www.audiophileon.com/news/theaudio-monarch-mkii-review/
 
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I’m probably going to pick up the Fiio UTSW5. not sure what I’ll pair them with though. A guy on another thread suggested perhaps the Thieaudio Monarch MkII based on my musical tastes

https://www.audiophileon.com/news/theaudio-monarch-mkii-review/
I believe that is what @erockg is using for an iem/adapter setup at the moment.

With regards to Fokus/EQs, I have the Fokus and had both the EQs and Geminis before. For sound capabilities, the Fokus win but have no real features to them in comparison to the other two. It will be interesting to see how you compare the the Falcons to the EQ and Geminis.
 

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