Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Oct 21, 2021 at 6:43 PM Post #38,686 of 39,900

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Good review but these won't be selling like hot cakes.
Bad battery life, big case and huge buds.
Looks like too little too late with a hefty price tag by Hifiman.
Yeah it's a weird experiment that is too expensive to try out at the moment. But if this also gets a 50% discount as the TWS600, then it is back in consideration imo.
 
Oct 21, 2021 at 6:55 PM Post #38,687 of 39,900

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Good review but these won't be selling like hot cakes.
Bad battery life, big case and huge buds.
Looks like too little too late with a hefty price tag by Hifiman.
Not really too little too late. These are ancient now by TWS standards. As in my earlier post today this is one of those Chi-Fi brands models that promised audiophile SQ and came and went. The low battery is more okay because of the amp in the same way as the Pi7 but no features and only SBC/AAC and past Hifiman QC control issues and other options keep people away.
 
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Yeah it's a weird experiment that is too expensive to try out at the moment. But if this also gets a 50% discount as the TWS600, then it is back in consideration imo.
Strange product. They are pushing high end bluetooth in their cans yet they produce this TWS with AAC and SBC? Obviously, they don't think codecs matter for TWS. The value to performance ratio for the Deva is off the charts. These look like the opposite. Literally zero interest in these at $299. Edit - $329 gets you the new Deva Pro with full size planar drivers and the bluemini with its tech goodness and LDAC. They sound amazing wireless and even better wired. And $299 gets you these lackluster TWS? I know where my money would go.
 
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Oct 21, 2021 at 7:03 PM Post #38,689 of 39,900

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Strange product. They are pushing high end bluetooth in their cans yet they produce this TWS with AAC and SBC? Obviously, they don't think codecs matter for TWS. The value to performance ratio for the Deva is off the charts. These look like the opposite. Literally zero interest in these at $299. Edit - $329 gets you the new Deva Pro with full size planar drivers and the bluemini with its tech goodness and LDAC. They sound amazing wireless and even better wired. And $299 gets you these lackluster TWS? I know where my money would go.
Not to mention that case would need a case or it will get scratched up. :) Not sure what the reviews said but I'm sure some would be worried about the volume headroom since they are 150ohm .
 
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Tripowin x HBB Mele on TRN BT30 with Azla SednaEarfit XELASTEC.
No ANC, transparency mode, app or volume controls..... but my G... it sounds great!
Better than any TWS!
 
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Tripowin x HBB Mele on TRN BT30 with Azla SednaEarfit XELASTEC.
No ANC, transparency mode, app or volume controls..... but my G... it sounds great!
Better than any TWS!
Dude... I've been wanting the Mele for awhile now... Waiting Amozon to stock it on prime, when I do for sure those bad boys are going on the UTWS3.
 
Oct 21, 2021 at 8:30 PM Post #38,692 of 39,900

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Tripowin x HBB Mele on TRN BT30 with Azla SednaEarfit XELASTEC.
No ANC, transparency mode, app or volume controls..... but my G... it sounds great!
Better than any TWS!
I am using my Mele with my BT20s pro too. Didn't know TRN release BT30 already. 20211021_172848.jpg
 
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Works great with 7hz Timeless too. And for the Timeless itself, it is absolutely awesome.
 
Oct 21, 2021 at 10:10 PM Post #38,694 of 39,900

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In the multiple postings here people have been talking about actual comparisons between different TWS , measurements, even people about noise distortions and generally you just can find generic or not really standardised approach

Just using Liberty Pro 3 this site is from Korea and they have measurements, comparisons but very structured and you can find basically most TW on the site: Deviant, B&O, MD,etc

Turn your captions on and you can follow pretty easily

Decided to give this EQ setting a whirl, like it but made some very minor changes and, I know this is odd, but I overlaid some EQ adjustments using the Kaiser Audio app 30-band option and wow. The L3Ps will be staying. Listening to a favorite album, Orleans eponymous album from the early 70s, and like hearing it for the first time.
 
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Here's my EQ settings so far for TaoTronics SoundLiberty 94 (with ANC on) with the AirReps156X Android App. Really have to bring the mid-bass and lower mids way down to get rid of all that bleed. I would like to have brought up the upper treble a bit more, but there seems to be some hard limiter which prevents clipping but leaves a "huffing" artifact (same thing happens with Wavelet's preset), so your best bet is to turn the volume down rather than up.



TaoTronics 94: EQ works and can be saved, ANC settings not saved (default ON, transparency mode on when using single ear), Low Latency setting is remembered, find my earbuds works. Changing ANC mode from hybrid to feed forward changes the bass tuning considerably (thicker and more punchy but some of the mid-bleed returns)
SoundPeats T2: EQ function disabled, ANC and Low Latency settings not remembered, no Find My Earbuds option. I'm not noticing any change in sound quality when changing ANC mode (though the highs do sound less congested with ANC off).

Has anyone tried if this works on Earfun Free Pro or other Airoha earbuds?

Have you experimented more with this app ? This app makes the TaoTronics 94 pretty attractive but I can't find them anywhere, do they exist under another name maybe ? The SoundPeats T2 look pretty similar but they're not compatible with the app based on your findings.
 
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Oct 22, 2021 at 9:03 AM Post #38,697 of 39,900

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This is fantastic, thanks for sharing. I’m enjoying the L3P much more now with the suggested EQ in the video (pause at 9:40 or see the attached screenshot).
Yep that looks like a great site, very analytical !
I'll use their setting and see if I can get to like the L3Ps a bit more...so far I'm still getting that "harshness" but admittedly a bit less of a gap between the sub bass and the rest.
 
Oct 22, 2021 at 10:24 AM Post #38,698 of 39,900

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I just went back to my Sennheiser MTW2's after just using the Gemini's for 2+ weeks or so, and while the Devialet is just so much better when it comes to bass, i gotta say the rest just sounds so much better on the Senns. It sounds a whole lot more natural and I just feel like it sounds like it's higher-res, like if the Devialets were playing 128 KBPS and the MTW2's are in 320 kbps haha. the only comparison I could make that makes sense to me.

Plus the MTW2's are like clouds in my ears while the Gemini's hurt like a mother...flipper. I think that's in part due to the silicone eartips that come included with the gemini's, they're not comfortable in my ears, the largest size is a bit too small but still chafes the insides of my ears.
I switched eartips between the ones I had on my Sennheisers and the ones I had on my Gemini's and it made them A LOT more comfortable, however they sound worse than with the stock tips.

If they weren't a gift i'd probably try to sell them, but they are however the better all-rounder out of the two overall because the call quality is better than on the MTW2's and the ANC is far superior.
 
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Oct 22, 2021 at 10:27 AM Post #38,699 of 39,900

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All I can say is keep trying with EQ and the L3P. I got to a point where they sound like TWs phones punching way above their weight. Should it take this much finagling? Nope. But feels like I managed to get the best out of them, to suit my tastes, of course. Any shrillness is gone. I happen to be sitting outside not far ftom jackhammering and I can hear the noise, but barely. Sweet! Test passed.
 
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Yep that looks like a great site, very analytical !
I'll use their setting and see if I can get to like the L3Ps a bit more...so far I'm still getting that "harshness" but admittedly a bit less of a gap between the sub bass and the rest.
I tried his Gemini settings, but not sold on them yet. Maybe that’s expected as I don’t find the flat bass or treble settings as overpowering, as he stated. That said, I am following his curve more, albeit with slightly different db levels and trying that out. Thanks to all for sharing
 

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