Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Oct 16, 2021 at 9:26 PM Post #38,551 of 42,238

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Actually funny thing happened to me. I did the HearID thing and it make the sound super bright like piercing and tizzy treble. I even made fun of it here on my earlier post. Then someone mentioned here to try to listen using the HearID for several hours. I did that last night and funny thing was the piercing treble like 90% gone. I listen to it for 2-3 hours last night, trying several different songs that are prone to sibilance, but I couldn't hear any sibilance.

Kaiser Audio app has 30-band EQ option.
Does the EQ setting works for other apps like wavelet?
 
Oct 16, 2021 at 9:38 PM Post #38,552 of 42,238

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Actually funny thing happened to me. I did the HearID thing and it make the sound super bright like piercing and tizzy treble. I even made fun of it here on my earlier post. Then someone mentioned here to try to listen using the HearID for several hours. I did that last night and funny thing was the piercing treble like 90% gone. I listen to it for 2-3 hours last night, trying several different songs that are prone to sibilance, but I couldn't hear any sibilance.
I could eliminate the piercing treble using the custom EQ, but I couldn't fattened up the mid using the EQ. If they have 32 bands EQ, it is possible to fine tuned it, but I haven't seen any 32 bands EQ on a smartphone ever.
With the HearID setting, the mid is fuller, treble is airy and not piercing than my custom EQ.
Kaiser Audio app has 30-band EQ option
Totally man....you know what I'm talking about. Cambridge did an awesome job with their tuning and tonality. The M1+ should get way more praise. I recently changed up the tips on my 1+ (which is the hardest tips to roll because of the crazy wide tip), I used a slightly wider bore tip on these... I believe the 1more Quad driver tips, mediums so that they still fit in the case, anyways the seal was much better and just do a great job of opening these up. I now believe the 1+ is actually better than the Touch. I just can't part with these yet, you made a good choice
No doubt that the M1+ does not get enough props. I found the OEM foam tips work fir me. @$99 on Amazon a serious ROI!
 
Oct 16, 2021 at 9:43 PM Post #38,553 of 42,238

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What you are describing re the CX 400BT is exactly how I felt for the first two days of listening here and there. I later found out the stock tips didn’t work for me despite getting a proper seal, or so I thought.
Try some tip rolling. I believe you’re not getting a proper seal with them yet.
I am using the stock tips, large, will swap around with my big bag of tips and see what happens. Maybe start with the Sony Hybrid tips and go from there :).
 
Oct 16, 2021 at 9:57 PM Post #38,554 of 42,238

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Ok put on the Sony tips and it helped the bass a bit but still not to the same level as the other TWS tested. But it did help make them sound more immersive.

But this is just one genre of music and one that relies on sub-bass so not sure I would put to much stock into this one comparison. I will do some more with other songs in other genres as time permits. I am sure the 400BT will fair better with genres like Jazz and older rock music.

But for those who listen to a lot of intense sound tracks from composers like Hans Zimmer, the 400BT might not be a good fit. But the new CX line with bigger bass might be just about perfect...
 
Oct 16, 2021 at 10:02 PM Post #38,555 of 42,238

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N6 Pro 2 has one of the best tunings and everything sounds quite right and natural. Maybe with the wrong tips it is a little warmer and smooth than perfect but not the Senn and Sony and even JVC/Victor and AT route of smoothed over too much. I and other agree it is their best SQ yet like they touted. It just isn't the biggest stage they have gotten but still big but the Overall tuning and extension and detail and timbre is the best. They are not getting the fanfare they should though they get all good reviews(outside of one current one on Amazon but they clearly got a lemon). So many has tuning misfires in one area or another or just don't have the resolution.
I was looking at these. I did see good reviews... Scarbir had a good review on them. Nuarl tunes their sets really well. The updated driver has to be good. I will pick up these soon I hope. Glad you like em man
 
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Lol decided to take the Sony tips off the GBuds Pro and see if the Senn tips would fit as they both seemed to use a short lip to hold the tip. Took some work but the Senn fit and seem to be less likely to come off. They sound pretty good to. Will test them tomorrow.
 
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So I connected the L3Ps to my LG V30, which I use as a DAP. Sounds excellent but the Soundcore app, which is installed for the Q30 I own, does not offer the L3P as an option. Only L2P+ an lower models. Am I doing something wrong? But straight up, no EQ using Amazon Music HD. Maybe I need to update the soundcore app. I’l give it a shot.

Update: That worked. Listening via LDAC, to the new Let It Be remix. Sweet.
 
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So I connected the L3Ps to my LG V30, which I use as a DAP. Sounds excellent but the Soundcore app, which is installed for the Q30 I own, does not offer the L3P as an option. Only L2P+ an lower models. Am I doing something wrong? But straight up, no EQ using Amazon Music HD. Maybe I need to update the soundcore app. I’l give it a shot.
Update it?
 
Oct 16, 2021 at 11:09 PM Post #38,560 of 42,238

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I am using the stock tips, large, will swap around with my big bag of tips and see what happens. Maybe start with the Sony Hybrid tips and go from there :).
What puzzles me about the stock tips is that I’m normally size M but the stock L tips fit me easily and compared to other L tips that I have handy they are smaller.

I don’t have any of the other TWS that you currently have to compare but to me the bass is plenty and doesn’t bleed to the mids and stays in place. Highs are OK and pretty smooth but still come with some sparkle and the overall imagining is very well done creating nice sound stage.

When using the stock tips the bass is good but the whole presentation is like you’re in a concert and sitting too far from the stage and while it feels wide it doesn’t feel right or enjoyable.
With the Fiil tips I feel like I’m right in front of the stage. The sound isn’t in your face but very close to stage like 1st row or so.
I hope it makes sense. :)
 
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This is for Darkestred a page back; hit the wrong button.

I was an M1 owner and tried the MTs but just preferred the form factor of the M1. When the M1+ released, bought them. I admittedly EQ them on the treble side, but they just meet my sound preference. Plus, I love their foam tips and bought 10 pair via Amazon. Can clean and reuse. Unlike Comply. Plus they fit the case. I like click over touch, and at $99 they are a steal. I am messing with the L3P EQ settings abd they are starting to come around. I tried a few higher priced TW phones and for my uses not willing to to past $150. At home, don’t really use in-ears much. If I do, it’s the Ety ER4XR with the ES100 dac. Mainly full sized phones. So that’s my story.
 
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Ok put on the Sony tips and it helped the bass a bit but still not to the same level as the other TWS tested. But it did help make them sound more immersive.

But this is just one genre of music and one that relies on sub-bass so not sure I would put to much stock into this one comparison. I will do some more with other songs in other genres as time permits. I am sure the 400BT will fair better with genres like Jazz and older rock music.

But for those who listen to a lot of intense sound tracks from composers like Hans Zimmer, the 400BT might not be a good fit. But the new CX line with bigger bass might be just about perfect...
Bass was very good on 400BT for older rock like Beatles, Pink floyd, simon&garfunkel, queen, bon jovi, etc. Didn't try jazz though.
 
Oct 17, 2021 at 1:17 AM Post #38,564 of 42,238

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Bass was very good on 400BT for older rock like Beatles, Pink floyd, simon&garfunkel, queen, bon jovi, etc. Didn't try jazz though.
Agreed. The bass is very nice. Not overwhelming which I like but with nice punch. Not the most precise or textured but very pleasing.
I somehow find most TWS to have excessive bass so I’m pretty happy with the CX 400BT.
 
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Bass was very good on 400BT for older rock like Beatles, Pink floyd, simon&garfunkel, queen, bon jovi, etc. Didn't try jazz though.
I listen to a lot of that type of rock and yes the 400BT sounds good :). So far the Jazz I have tried also sound good. I will see if I have time to pick a single Jazz tune and do another comparison round tomorrow.
 

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