Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Sep 29, 2021 at 9:46 AM Post #37,967 of 39,900

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I guess this is very individual, and depending on the tip (size/material), but for most of the tips I've tested now... this is difficult to live with.

Tried to google "Devialet Gemini driver flex", and found some hits.
So I guess it's nothing wrong with my set, since several people hear it too.

From Stereonet: https://www.stereonet.com/reviews/devialet-gemini-true-wireless-earbuds-review
"Upon initial insertion, there's a cringe-inducing driver flex noise, a sort of scrunching paper sound. It doesn't appear to cause any issues with sound quality, but one can't help but wonder about driver longevity if this is an ongoing issue."

I don't have this with just insertion, but everytime I chew/move my mouth... I hope I find a foam tip that sounds good, or I will sell these quite quick...
Can somebody explain to me how to identify what is a driver flex noise? With the Gemini, I have experienced little pops from EAM before I got the right fit.
 
Sep 29, 2021 at 10:11 AM Post #37,968 of 39,900

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Sennheiser CX plus. Been wanting to try a Sennheiser and this model allows either side of the single earbud to be used which is important to me.

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Sep 29, 2021 at 11:07 AM Post #37,969 of 39,900

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Sennheiser CX plus. Been wanting to try a Sennheiser and this model allows either side of the single earbud to be used which is important to me.

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How’s the the fit? These buds don’t look like the most ergonomic and the edges look kind of sharp although technically they shouldn’t touch the ears but knowing my ears it might be an issue lol
 
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Can somebody explain to me how to identify what is a driver flex noise? With the Gemini, I have experienced little pops from EAM before I got the right fit.
Driver flex, for me, manifests as a “crinkling” sound as I insert the IEM. There are a few ways to lessen this - for example open your mouth wide as you insert the IEMs in your ears, or tug upwards on the outside of your ear as you insert the IEM…. It is all about avoiding inserting the IEM while there is a solid seal and instead keep the seal broken until the IEM is fully inserted - good seal is essential once the IEM is inserted, but problematic sometimes while you are inserting the IEM.
 
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Ok. Regarding the Devialet Geminis...

It's not driver flex... Because there's no noise when chewing, running, jumping with any tips when noise cancellation is OFF.
ANC Low has less "driver flex'ish" noise than with ANC High.

I have almost no noise on the right side with any mode or tip, but with ANC ON, the left is crackling and "flex'ing" as h....

The only tip that's ok to use, is the Flexifit foam I got with my Tevis. (but they also crackles when running/jumping, left side)

But again, no noise whatsoever with any tip with ANC off.... (Edit: But the SQ is awful in Neutral, or Neutered as they should call it... :wink: )

Please help?!?
 
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Sep 29, 2021 at 11:59 AM Post #37,972 of 39,900

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How’s the the fit? These buds don’t look like the most ergonomic and the edges look kind of sharp although technically they shouldn’t touch the ears but knowing my ears it might be an issue lol
The fit is surprisingly comfortable despite its angular looks. No pain hotspots in my ears. They do stick out quite a bit so not for side sleepers.
 
Sep 29, 2021 at 12:22 PM Post #37,973 of 39,900

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Some news about the technics az60 and az40
Az60 with anc and ldac gonna be 199.99 and az40 gonna be 129.99
https://www.engadget.com/technics-eah-az60-and-eah-az40-true-wireless-earbuds-140003867.html
Looks like the AZ60 price was adjusted up to $229 from $199.

Going to be watching when these come to Canada. Very interested, hopefully they sound as good or better than the AZ70.

That new Soundcore also looks interesting, but the sound signature of the L2P while good is not quite as good as the AZ70 for me so if the L3P sounds the same not sure I want to go down that path.
 
Sep 29, 2021 at 1:15 PM Post #37,974 of 39,900

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The other Sony we saw in the FCC filings is now a reality...
https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_announces_whxb910n_headphones_and_wfc500_earbuds-news-51187.php
https://www-sony-jp.translate.goog/..._x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=nui,elem
Due out 10/8...

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Next to the XB700 for size comparison. Again the complaint I often have. So nice for a small size but no real features that they seem overpriced. One mic, 5.0 with only SBC/AAC and no ambient or cheap version ANC and cheap looking case for $100. What year is it Sony??

and we got this one...
UM TWS30X
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Due out starting 10/1. https://www-mixwave-co-jp.translate..._x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=nui,elem

Cultivating a pretty decent crop so far this fall with the AZ60, Denon ANC, FoKus, Final, new Jabra, Unique Melody etc.
 
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Sep 29, 2021 at 2:57 PM Post #37,975 of 39,900

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The included tips in medium didn't give me a 100% seal/fit, and I felt the buds moved in my ear. If I try the original L, I get the annoying sound you describe.


I have the Final Type E large. Will try later.

Got the Geminis yesterday and haven't tested much yet. But when they're in place, they sound awesome! Best TWS I've heard. So open, clean with tight, quick bass.

Will try some tips today, but fear I might get in trouble finding something to give me a perfect fit. Maybe I have to try some foam with these.
Silicone make them either move in my ear (pushed out in a way), or make the annoying sound while moving the mouth, like Luke says.
I can’t wait to hear what you think about the final tips with the Geminis. They’re actually in my cart right now :)
 
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I can’t wait to hear what you think about the final tips with the Geminis. They’re actually in my cart right now :)
If you have read my last posts, I guess your post is a little ironic? If not, please read my posts about the challenges the Geminis give me...
I can't use the Final tips due to the noise I get with ANC on, and especially silicone tips.

Otherwise, the sound quality is really awesome. I think almost all tips are good on the Geminis, sound wise that is...
 
Sep 29, 2021 at 3:56 PM Post #37,977 of 39,900

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They can take my money now! But I'm not sure why they needed to release the 2 Pros...
They've done it with the Life Q20 over ears as well. Released a new version with USB-C, multi point and app support recently, even though the Q30 have been out for a year.

I suppose for a company operating at the less premium end of the market it makes sense to reuse the external shell and a design you know works and upgrade the internals rather than release a "new" model every year that's pretty much just a tweak anyway.
 
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Spent the night with the 1More ComfoBuds Z. First off, I have one gripe. You can only set the Nature sounds for up to 150 mins. I'd rather it be 4-5 hours. Outside of that they are TINY. I've had the Bose, had the Amazfit Zenbuds. Tried earplugs. Used to use the Earin M-2s. So, I'm not new to the tech and/or options. I purchased the ComfoBuds Z for $82 after a coupon I found online. Definitely the cheapest by far. They are no frills. They don't have buttons or touch controls. You need to do everything within the app. The app isn't that great but works. The Bose sleep app is the best. That said, the CBs have the smallest case. MUCH smaller. They aren't noticeable in your ears and didn't bother me all night. I set the timer for 150 mins with the rain sounds. They did block out my toddler who is usually found wedged between my wife and I all night. I tracked my sleep with my Oura ring and got an 87 which is Optimal by Oura's standards. So, the buds did help me. I did hear them rub on my pillow as I'm a side-sleeper, but nothing that isn't normal when you wear buds to bed. They didn't fall out. The other cool thing about these is that you could use them for up to 2 1/2 hours to stream music from Apple Music, Spotify, whatever. I didn't buy them for music, I bought them to mask all the sounds at night that keep me up, so the nature sounds were for me last night. If I want to listen to music and rock, I have higher end buds for that. I might try the CBs with nature sounds from an app or meditation music via Apple Music and see what happens (how long they last, connection, etc.). The Bose and Amazfit only play the nature sound available from the manufacturer via their proprietary app. The CBs were appealing to me because they can also play music from other apps - just in case I do want that option. I'll try them again tonight and hope to get the same results as last night.
 
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If you have read my last posts, I guess your post is a little ironic? If not, please read my posts about the challenges the Geminis give me...
I can't use the Final tips due to the noise I get with ANC on, and especially silicone tips.

Otherwise, the sound quality is really awesome. I think almost all tips are good on the Geminis, sound wise that is...
Oh sorry I missed that. Sorry they didn’t work for you. Thanks for letting me know before I purchased
 

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