Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Jun 12, 2021 at 2:03 PM Post #34,201 of 35,530

miserybeforethemusic

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On that same note, I just bought the DX300, and she didn't even go crazy like she normally would. All she said (calmly) was "That's nice honey". OK! Now I'm kind of afraid... LOL

Or, maybe I should pick up some new TWS while she is still in that calm mood?! :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: If you don't see me here in more than a week or so, assume the worst!

Or a third option is that she is planning on getting something that might totally break the bank. :money_with_wings:🤷‍♂️
Someone is planning a bit purchase...congrats on the DX300! Should be a great upgrade. Maybe options 2 and 3 are both viable :)
 
Jun 12, 2021 at 2:06 PM Post #34,202 of 35,530

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I have a somewhat Rube Goldberg solution for you. Get a 3.5mm Splitter cable that gives you 2 3.5mm Stereo outputs, and then get TWO Bluetooth Transmitters. The Bluetooth transmitters don't need to be expensive. Especially if you are OK with SBC, and don't need AAC, APTX APTX-HD; or the hardest to find an LDAC Transmitter.
This way you'll have a separate bluetooth transmitter for each TWS.
The issue with this is they'll be effectively splitting the input voltage between two devices. Yes, it'll work and with two separate IDs, is also probably easier to manage. If the signal strength coming from the TV to the device was more robust, I think this would be a better idea, but they're usually only a few mW, if even that.
 
Jun 12, 2021 at 2:51 PM Post #34,203 of 35,530

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I had something in this form factor since early 2020. I might even posted about that here (yes, I did) ... it's actually really nice around the house when you still need to be aware ...

At 150$ one would expect a much better SQ ... but my 15$ ones aren't even that bad.
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What a weird design ! Any advantage over the X12s for running or biking (for which the X12s are pretty much unusable due to wind noise) ?
 
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The issue with this is they'll be effectively splitting the input voltage between two devices. Yes, it'll work and with two separate IDs, is also probably easier to manage. If the signal strength coming from the TV to the device was more robust, I think this would be a better idea, but they're usually only a few mW, if even that.
I still think this will work. It's what those Analog to BT transmitters are for. One could also come off the TV's RCA Jacks and split to two BT Transmitters in a similar way. It's just an idea to solve a problem that was asked.
 
Jun 12, 2021 at 3:36 PM Post #34,205 of 35,530

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My AZ70 are starting to have a ticking sound when walking and jogging. Might be looking at warranty. If I do I might see if they have a new model in the works :). See if I can finagle them into upgrading lol.
 
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My AZ70 are starting to have a ticking sound when walking and jogging. Might be looking at warranty. If I do I might see if they have a new model in the works :). See if I can finagle them into upgrading lol.
Wouldn't blame you. So far so good on mine. Man, I just love them for the stuff they do well. Hope you can get it worked out!
 
Jun 12, 2021 at 4:30 PM Post #34,207 of 35,530

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Went back to using my AKG N400 vs the BW PI7 and MD08.
The sound signature is really enticing and you don't need to turn ANC to get a bass punch
Controls are much flexible and easier to handling when walking or running
The only issue is the case ,it's chubby 🙄
 
Jun 12, 2021 at 5:31 PM Post #34,208 of 35,530

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Im split, the N400 sounds awesome, but the lack of multipoint, the issues with the problematic contacts (got sick of pulling them out and them being dead), the iffy controls, and the ANC is next to useless.

Bought the Huawei freebuds pro, sounds less nice, ANC works better, has multipoint connection seamless. between PC and my cellphone at work

for now, i think that the n400 for free time and the freebuds for work.
 
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Thought that too, but I'm not sure that's the market for them. They want runners and bikers. Guess we'll see. Man, I had the first gen Jaybirds years ago when BT headphones weren't a thing yet. Pretty cool to see them evolve. I'll prob pass on these. Until the wild hair tickles.


I still own and use my Bluebuds X. From 2014.

(Edit: That goes against my short life argument. But I also think those are a unicorn)
 
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Jun 13, 2021 at 1:39 AM Post #34,210 of 35,530

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What a weird design ! Any advantage over the X12s for running or biking (for which the X12s are pretty much unusable due to wind noise) ?
can't say I have tested with wind .. it reminds me of those bone conducting headphones ... you kinda hear the music and it's not too bad, but have not considered using it for running .. those S19 are unfortunatelly BT connection huggers, even when in box, they love to hijack the connection and disturb whatever music I am playing, so most of the time I have to say 'forget device' ... oh, but the X12 love doing that too sometimes, not as bad though
 
Jun 13, 2021 at 7:37 AM Post #34,211 of 35,530

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Hear, here! Still have the original QC35 that were gifted to me by the wife on original release. Imo. One of the best-built consumer products I've ever bought. Was the first emergence of that refreshed house sound, but I do miss their old multidriver floorstanders (think they were the 501). That was Bose at its finest.

You may want to consider multi-driver. I can't recommend the B&W because I've never tried it, but I do have the Noble Falcon Pro, ADV M5-TWS, and JBL Club Pro+ (assuming they're compatible with your ears) all get you pretty darn close. In the case of the ADV or JBL, they tremendously benefit from the Azla Crystal tips (about $20 for a pack of 2). SpinFit CP100 worked well with the JBL, too, but I prefer the Azla tips' tackiness for consistent fit and basically no nozzle to mess with the sound signature.

Had you not made a comment that asked for bass to dig low, I'd also recommend the UE FITS or Technics AZ70W as both have exceptional staging and midrange detail. Personally, I think the FITS are still one of my absolute favorites, but they're definitely a grower and don't have some of the bass weight you're probably looking for. Perhaps later on when you're willing to go for something a little more neutral. Those are all-day comfortable as well, thanks to their pretty shallow insertion to the ear canal. The Technics are live/acoustic beasts, but also have a similar issue to the UEs when it comes to bass presence. I'd attribute that to the relatively large dynamic drivers in each, which tend to excel in bass quality at the expense of quantity.

All of this is why I have the Etymotion cable for the ER4XR and the CF01 for everything else. It takes the "what if" out of the equation and lets you know what IEM X sounds like wireless. Great way to both set up a reference point and give IEMs more regular use than they may have in the past. And they're blooming comfortable to boot. FiiO and TRN make a version as well, but again...no personal experience. Others can chime in on their experiences here.

If you go that route, @yeeyy you may see a faster return on your investment. If you go this route, I'd suggest picking up some MMCX/2pin adapters from OE on MusicTeck or OE's website for maximum compatibility. Even my old KZ ED16 sound fantastic through the CF01. Really hope iBasso upgrades that model with a LDAC or aptX Adaptive variant in the future, but it's otherwise a fantastic product.

Side benefit: they did survive an unexpected dunk in the bath while I had my Blessing 2 connected. Had to dry out the B2 in silica, but the CF01 just needed a quick wipe and everything was copacetic. Not sure what megabuck TWS I'd feel half as confident doing that with.
Sorry if misunderstood I’m a bass head - not, I’m not. I like to have the bass to dig lower but not full of bass.

I am definitely a lover of Natural and balance sound, and that’s the reason I bought the N6 Pro.

No I really do not want to buy another accessories with the TWS IEM as I use it on the go. At home I will listen to my wired HD600.

Truly thankful for your recommendation and I will see if I had a chance to try out FITS. I know UE used to be famous with their IEM, not so sure about them (& TWS IEM) now.
 
Jun 13, 2021 at 9:12 AM Post #34,212 of 35,530

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I have been testing my WF-1000XM4 the past couple days. Sold the MTW2 in anticipation of these and wanted to experience some Sony's.
I started with the medium which fit good, but at times found if I yawned I would break seal. I tried the large and they were surprisingly comfortable. It is important to squeeze them. The large don't break seal if I open my mouth or move my jaw. Also, sub base sometimes sounded weak or weird with the medium tips and this was corrected with the large tips.
I really don't care for anc at all. I really wished companies would stop focusing so much on this and more on sound quality. That being said, the anc is really good.
Soundstage is somewhat good. It lacks detail, slam and clarity too, but totally unfair comparison as I am judging them against my LCDi4. A downside to being spoiled by the i4 is that everything I have heard so far has been so far away. Even with LDAC on my Galaxy Z Fold 2 and at 990 kbps, these are not there yet. It's like listening in standard definition vs 4k HDR.

An example is the bass drop at 2:53 of Alicia Keys - Back To Life

Busy passages are sort of mushed and sounds compressed. Bass drops are suppressed or just not dynamic enough. Obviously nowhere near as fast as planar either.
Nonetheless, I do like them for what they are and so far the best all rounder with the most tech to date, wireless charging case, LDAC, great anc, ip rating, long battery life, better app and small case.
 
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Jun 13, 2021 at 9:25 AM Post #34,213 of 35,530

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I am going to mess with 3rd party tips today (none of Sony's fit me as I need XL) so using SednaEarfit Crystals on my XM4's for near perfect passive seal but the sound is horrid (with no real mids/highs more like muddy), they did do the same thing to one of my other non TWS sets but worked well on all others including TWS sets so going to try my SpinFits knowing it may loose me some passive NC.

Also have battery issue on R bud and a few other things to post once I am done but so far not too happy.
 
Jun 13, 2021 at 10:06 AM Post #34,214 of 35,530

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Has anyone tried both the XM4s and the Galaxy Buds Plus/Pro? I’m tossing up whether to pre-order the XM4 (arriving mid-July) or wait for the Galaxy Buds 2 (rumoured for August). I much prefer a more neutral sound than the Sony house sound, don’t require ANC, and would prefer multipoint, so am hoping the Buds 2 might be the ticket.
 
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Help!

Small ear woes;

My Samsung Galaxy Buds+ arrived yesterday and they are gigantic! They won't stay my ears as the body of the bud is the same size as my ear canal. I love the features on these and would keep them if not for the size issue. Both buds fell out this morning when walking to the subway..

I also tried the Soundpeats Trueair2 and preferred the sound of these but prefer the Galaxy buds for overall ease of use and connectivity with my iPhone.

What buds fit better for people with small ears??

Considering getting the Earfun Free 2s but I'm guessing I might prefer a set of buds which also excels in "ease of use for everyday commuting" - Edit: Just read a mediocre review on here by CK Moustache so might hold off: https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/earfun-free-2.25211/

My dream is a set of buds so comfortable, I completely forget they are in my ears. Thank you thank you!!
 
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