Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Jun 10, 2021 at 1:45 PM Post #34,096 of 39,903

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Hum, so the hunt for tips that work has started... is it going to be another fail from Sony when it comes to tips/fit/comfort ?! Why can't they ship tips that work ?! In my experience it's rare that third party tips work better than the original ones even if they can feel/sound better at first.
 
Jun 10, 2021 at 1:47 PM Post #34,097 of 39,903

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Well, I'm an idiot. Right after I posted this, I looked down and noticed there's an option for "[Ambient Sound Control] Operation Setting" that allows you to add in the ANC Off option.
It took me a few to discover this too. I was like this is crazy, I either have to have ANC on or ambient mode on but not neither? The off setting should be on by default 🤷

I do like the voice prompt the earbuds give you as you change the mode. It's perfect.
 
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Hum, so the hunt for tips that work has started... is it going to be another fail from Sony when it comes to tips/fit/comfort ?! Why can't they ship tips that work ?! In my experience it's rare that third party tips work better than the original ones even if they can feel/sound better at first.
The foam tips are just fine, honestly. The Sedna tips I have didn't really change the sound for me. Like helmutcheese, my earholes are larger than most people's, and so having larger tips would work better for us anyway.
 
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Hum, so the hunt for tips that work has started... is it going to be another fail from Sony when it comes to tips/fit/comfort ?! Why can't they ship tips that work ?! In my experience it's rare that third party tips work better than the original ones even if they can feel/sound better at first.

i have a rather different experience, almost all of my TWS and IEMs, i rarely settled with the stock tips and mostly ended up using third party ones, be it because of better fit, better sound, or combination of both.
 
Jun 10, 2021 at 2:39 PM Post #34,100 of 39,903

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i have a rather different experience, almost all of my TWS and IEMs, i rarely settled with the stock tips and mostly ended up using third party ones, be it because of better fit, better sound, or combination of both.
Same. I use third party tips on almost all my TWS as well. The only ones I use stock tips on are the JBL Reflect Flow (couldn't get a good seal for some reason and all the bass got sucked out). Usually use Spinfits CP100z or Final Audio Type E on TWS and Spinfit CP800s on my Shure IEMs.
 
Jun 10, 2021 at 3:19 PM Post #34,101 of 39,903

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I think it's similar to the Galaxy Buds Pro fit. Actually put it in vertically, and rotate about 45 degrees-ish until it locks in, so the tip is much more shallow than expected.
I definitely think they're designed to fit shallower than I'm used to, but I can't go any shallower and get a seal, already using the large tips. They are clearly banking on the foam tips holding them in place.

The only wireless buds I own are the original Galaxy Buds which fit very snugly and I barely notice in my ears. I may pick up the Galaxy Buds Pro to compare before deciding what to keep, but people seem to have fit issues with those as well.
 
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Bluetooth adapter or transmitter? There was a fairly popular brand that just got yanked from Amazon that made a decent transmitter, but I'll do some digging and see what I can find. What codecs?

How close is something like this?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLHRPDP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_Q3V9YKH290DT5GT5255Z

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Thanks! You are right. To play sound from a firestick hooked up to an HDTV, I will require a bluetooth transmitter and not an adapter. Not too concerned about codecs and as long as there is no delay or lip synch and can make out dialogue, I'll be more than satisfied.
 
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Thanks! You are right. To play sound from a firestick hooked up to an HDTV, I will require a bluetooth transmitter and not an adapter. Not too concerned about codecs and as long as there is no delay or lip synch and can make out dialogue, I'll be more than satisfied.
The one I linked should work perfect, then. Price is decent. They have variants if you need support from different codecs. Looks like this one's aptX only (but includes LL)
 
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Same. I use third party tips on almost all my TWS as well. The only ones I use stock tips on are the JBL Reflect Flow (couldn't get a good seal for some reason and all the bass got sucked out). Usually use Spinfits CP100z or Final Audio Type E on TWS and Spinfit CP800s on my Shure IEMs.
Agreed. On both my wired and wireless IEM's I always use third party tips. Multiple pairs of Dunu wired IEMs. Both pairs of my Meze IEM's when I had the Pentas and now my Solos. My MTW2 I use third party tips.

I switched the Sony XM4 stock medium tips for the same tips I used on my Pentas and on my MTW2 last night and used them this morning, definitely less bass. I put the stock Sony XM4 medium tips back on and like the sound better. Just went for a long walk with the dog and the sound was really good. Maybe I'm getting brain burn in but I am more impressed with the sound today of the XM4 than last night, not like it was bad last night.
 
Jun 10, 2021 at 3:41 PM Post #34,107 of 39,903

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Yes I know but many claim Vol 50% and SoundPeats claim Vol 60% and many do not have AAC support so will be SBC as aptX is little more hungry.

I know they want to make it look as good as possible but I find even at lower volume (overnight sleeping) I get nowhere near the claims and even the case cannot charge the buds X times as claimed, it is always short by at least 1/2 charge.
Yeah, the issue with short case battery life irritates me above how the earbuds themselves last. By using ANC and high volumes, I end up discharging the case much faster, yet the earbuds themselves often still show something like 80-90% after 3 hours of use. Galaxy Buds+, 1More ANC, TaoTronics 94 and SoundPeats T2 all have similar issues even if the buds themselves can last a long time (in the case of the Buds+ and T2). On the SoundPeats T2 with SBC and ANC on at 70% volume I got about 6 hours. Only the Earfun Free Pro has really impressed me with its case longevity (3-5 days with my usage).

I'm curious how long the XM4 case lasts with LDAC, and whether you can shut the case to power off the earbuds afterwards (this usually requires proximity sensors or for the case to retain some battery life as on Earfun Free Pro).

I am on DEV but AFAIK the new Win 10 May Update has it (I am not 100% sure) and you do not need any drivers/software to use it but you can see which codec is being used by running this:

https://www.bluetoothgoodies.com/tweaker/

The down side is now I am stuck on AAC instead of SBC or aptX for some of my devices as Windows does have have any way for me to choose/force it.

https://www.whathifi.com/news/windows-10-update-to-bring-aac-bluetooth-support
Yeah I just got the May update and it doesn't have it. Seems like it's coming in the Sun Valley update but is currently only in Dev Channel. I tried installing the preview but it kept getting stuck. Also read some comments from testers of static popping and dropouts with AAC, though this may be down to other factors.
 
Jun 10, 2021 at 4:16 PM Post #34,110 of 39,903

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In regard to the XM4

The whole independent bud thing is not something I ever use so not a big deal for me but glad there is a way to use it for those that want that feature.

I have got comfortable giving up the features on the left bud of my XM3 so I have volume control. On the XM4 I might try using the voice commend "hey Google turn up the volume" to keep the default left functions available.
 

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