Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Jun 10, 2021 at 4:12 AM Post #34,081 of 38,795

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That's how I've been listening to them mostly. I don't need ANC as often as I need it. When I do need it I want it to be very good, but I'm gonna run LDAC with no ANC most of the time. I'll do a test at some point see how long it takes for them to lose 20% power with LDAC and no ANC listening to Tidal HiFi
Talking of turning off ANC, is ANC OFF in the button tapping cycle with ANC/Ambient ? I think I saw somewhere that the cycle was ANC/Ambient/Mute, but maybe that was wrong or it can be changed. On the Echo Buds it can't, but you can use the "Turn off noise reduction" Alexa command or do it in the app.
 
Jun 10, 2021 at 4:20 AM Post #34,082 of 38,795

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Talking of turning off ANC, is ANC OFF in the button tapping cycle with ANC/Ambient ? I think I saw somewhere that the cycle was ANC/Ambient/Mute, but maybe that was wrong or it can be changed. On the Echo Buds it can't, but you can use the "Turn off noise reduction" Alexa command or do it in the app.
You have to manually turn off ANC in the app, the button only does ANC/Ambient. But I triple checked, if you have it turned off when putting it back in the case, and then take the buds back out the ANC remains turned off. I do not know if you don't have the app or connect to a PC though.
 
Jun 10, 2021 at 4:22 AM Post #34,083 of 38,795

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You have to manually turn off ANC in the app, the button only does ANC/Ambient. But I triple checked, if you have it turned off when putting it back in the case, and then take the buds back out the ANC remains turned off. I do not know if you don't have the app or connect to a PC though.
Well, I'm an idiot. Right after I posted this, I looked down and noticed there's an option for "[Ambient Sound Control] Operation Setting" that allows you to add in the ANC Off option.
 
Jun 10, 2021 at 4:33 AM Post #34,084 of 38,795

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Can anyone who already has the xm4 let me know? The absence of these features are deal breakers for me. It's a toss up between the xm4 and the mw08. The mw08 has every features I want, just gotta audition it.


According to this video, they work independently. Timestamped for you convenience.
 
Jun 10, 2021 at 5:47 AM Post #34,087 of 38,795

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I just got the M&D mw08. I can understand why some say these are a muddy bass mess while some reviewers say these are the best tws earbuds that exists. The fit is very important. If they are jammed too tight in the ears, they give off very boomy and undefined bass. The stock tips are also quite thick, which adds to the boomy bass. I put on some some spinfit cp100 tips and the sound is very clear and balanced now. Breath taking sound quality.

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Jun 10, 2021 at 10:35 AM Post #34,088 of 38,795

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Spent the evening with the XM4, extremely happy with the purchase, no connection issues at all with iPhone. Sound is clearly a step up from XM3. Fit is excellent on me, almost as good as the Melomania touch (which I still rank as the best fitting tws out there).

Things got interesting when I switched to LDAC on the Astell and kern kann alpha. I’m not kidding when I say this but it’s very much in the vein of the z1r I have too. Obviously not as polished and lacking the soundstage and impact of the bass but cut from the same cloth clearly. I will take that as a portable solution!

ANC is top notch, blocked out traffic noise and people talking outside apartment.

Really dig the design and packaging, it looks small in all the photos and videos we have all seen but it is so dinky when you see it in person!

I can say hand on heart, this is the one for me for portable wireless use. No longer need to look around and waste money.
I like mine as well. Bought with the expectation of sending back, but they have done a really good job with these in a whole. Couple additional things I like outside of the sound is the footprint of the case and the fact is has wireless charging and the lid "hitch" that keeps it open when taking the buds out or putting in. I hate when the lids flop open and close while trying to use the cases. I am probably one of the few here who don't like foam tips generally, so I am not a huge fan of the tips on them, but I can work with that. Lot of features and controls in the app too, which is pretty nice.
 
Jun 10, 2021 at 11:47 AM Post #34,089 of 38,795

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When I end up pulling the trigger on the XM4 (note I didn't say if... :wink:) I will happily swap to the Sony Hybrid tips if the foams bug me :xf_cool:. The reviews do look promising, but aside from winning the lottery, at $399CAD I will be waiting for these to go on sale... Or maybe pick up an open box at a discount at some point...
 
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This also another review showing a gap between the earpiece and the inner ear:


if we assume that the reviewer did wear it "right" for him, than for some people (depending how their ear canal goes) would ended up with that kind of fit, which is a bit floating.
Honestly I kinda wish mine fit like that, then maybe they wouldn't hurt my ears. It's the upper part of the housing pressing on the outer parts of my ear that hurt. We shall see if my ears acclimate. I've had IEMs that hurt initially only to end up being very comfy.
 
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I just got the M&D mw08. I can understand why some say these are a muddy bass mess while some reviewers say these are the best tws earbuds that exists. The fit is very important. If they are jammed too tight in the ears, they give off very boomy and undefined bass. The stock tips are also quite thick, which adds to the boomy bass. I put on some some spinfit cp100 tips and the sound is very clear and balanced now. Breath taking sound quality.
M&D make a mean pair of tws that's for sure. Wish they were the same caliber for over ears.

Also their design is cool
 
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Honestly I kinda wish mine fit like that, then maybe they wouldn't hurt my ears. It's the upper part of the housing pressing on the outer parts of my ear that hurt. We shall see if my ears acclimate. I've had IEMs that hurt initially only to end up being very comfy.
I think it's similar to the Galaxy Buds Pro fit. Actually put it in vertically, and rotate about 45 degrees-ish until it locks in, so the tip is much more shallow than expected.
 
Jun 10, 2021 at 1:37 PM Post #34,094 of 38,795

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Good to know as SpinFits are too thin so no good for passive NC but good seal and sound.

I have Sendna also, Standard (black) Comfort (white) and Xelastec and the same again for all 3 in the short TWS versions so 6 variants.

I need at least 14mm in eartips so many L do not fit, some so called rare XL's also do not fit but SoundPeats XP do as 14mm so did SoundCores largest size (the two tone red one).
 
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So thankfully, the earbud hole for the XM4's case is large enough to support other eartips. I'm testing some Sedna Xelastec. Immediately noticed I'm able to get an easier seal just due to the stickiness of the Sedna tips.
Yep. I tried my favorite silicone tips that struggled to go in some other cases and they fit fine. I'll have to update my impressions as they do change the sound.
 

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