Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Mar 15, 2021 at 7:07 AM Post #30,706 of 38,787

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Have you enabled both ANC and ambient mode options on both sides of the earbuds? I can't remember which side controls what function in the default state as I have enabled all the functions.

The voice prompts meanings in order if all controls under the MAF section are enabled (from ANC and ambient off state):

Jiang zao kai - ANC on
Jian ting kai - ambient mode on
MAF guan - ANC and ambient off
Thanks for taking the time to respond!
I should have mentioned that I am on iOS and do NOT have the app.

trying to get along your transcribed Chinese I get on the left:
Jiang zao kai (with uplifting high beeps)
Jiang zao guan (with lower beeps)
Right:
Jian ting kai
Jian ting Guan
Same beeps. So I guess this confirms my initial feeling. Only that because I am app-less, this is mapped to 2 sides for me.
Time to study Chinese :wink:
 
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Thanks for taking the time to respond!
I should have mentioned that I am on iOS and do NOT have the app.

trying to get along your transcribed Chinese I get on the left:
Jiang zao kai (with uplifting high beeps)
Jiang zao guan (with lower beeps)
Right:
Jian ting kai
Jian ting Guan
Same beeps. So I guess this confirms my initial feeling. Only that because I am app-less, this is mapped to 2 sides for me.
Time to study Chinese :wink:
I guess you have it correct. 👍

Jiang zao - reduce noise, also known as noise reduction
Jian ting - listen simultaneously, also known as ambient mode
Kai - switch on
Guan - switch off

Actually the Chinese on the buds are not very descriptive even for someone who understands Chinese. I guess the technology is still relatively new and the Chinese words are newly coined and not commonly heard.
 
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I guess you have it correct. 👍

Jiang zao - reduce noise, also known as noise reduction
Jian ting - listen simultaneously, also known as ambient mode
Kai - switch on
Guan - switch off

Actually the Chinese on the buds are not very descriptive even for someone who understands Chinese. I guess the technology is still relatively new and the Chinese words are newly coined and not commonly heard.
Understandable .. and fascinating ... I know the sound of 'connected' (but no idea how to transcribe) ... and my funniest example is that one of my Sabbat X12 pairs is bilingual, one side speaks English, the other one Chinese ... I know I could possibly rectify that with a hard reset ... but this is fun & unique
Don't get me started on those bluetooth commends in German :)
 
Mar 15, 2021 at 9:16 AM Post #30,709 of 38,787

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Thanks!
Do you mean the FreeBuds3?
I couldn't find any review focused on the sound... and to be honest Huawei is not a brand well known for this...
Have you seen any good review?
Thanks!

Freebuds pro.
Amazing ANC, transparency, secure fit. Wireless charging. Good sound. Full controls. Multi pairing.
So far it and the Jabras are the only 2 buds I would consider as all arounders. Meaning that they tick every Buc as far as features and functionalities.
 
Mar 15, 2021 at 9:19 AM Post #30,710 of 38,787

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Question regarding the Fiil T1 pro, even after reading reviews and watching videos, I am not 100% sure which side activates what (because Chinese Audio) ... just from my own perception I want to say that LEFT long presses toggles through ANC on / off, while RIGHT toggles through ambient on / off ...
Too bad I can't record the little voices in my head (I mean the ones coming from the buds), I would not mind learning word by word what those Chinese ladies are saying exactly, as I have other Chinese buds.

In general I's love to record and compare those voice prompts ... maybe have an awards show :) I recall calling one the most 'snotty', but already forgot which one that was ... some are really friendly and uplifting, other are just annoying :D

What's your favorite?

You can customize this. Something that sound like chin chin Thai is ambient ....
 
Mar 15, 2021 at 10:30 AM Post #30,711 of 38,787

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I'm wondering what this thread's take is on the galaxy pro's? I saw a bit about them a few months back and then nothing. I got a pair to go with my android phone (pixel 3) and PC, and I kinda like them, but they are a bit fatiguing to my ears and like many others don't fit well. The sound itself is good though, although sometimes the treble can be a bit too much. I had the sony wf-xsm3's for a while but didn't like the sound as much and had connection issues.

I'll likely return, but I'm unsure what to try next. I'm no audiophile, but the biggest single attribute I want is good sound, assuming they meet some minimum requirements. For me this is, in no particular order:

1. Good solid connection with my phone/PC
2. ANC (doesn't have to be top notch but it is important to me)
3. Hear through ie I want to be able to change a setting so I can talk to others without taking the iem's out. I love how on the samsung, if I talk it automatically goes to that mode.
4. Decently good mic - just enough for some calls and occasional webcam use.
I’d go with the KEF mu3’s. I‘m listening to classical right now and they sound incredible
 
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Yes, you are right. I didn't try KEF and Nuarl N10pro. They not available in US yet. Tried Gemini, they are good. But all of them has single dynamic driver, if I remember correctly, and don't have this sweet treble extension, resolution and sound stage which armature drivers of Falcons can reproduce. Or maybe, I am just the big fan of hybrids.
Actually I’m in the US and I bought the KEFs right off their website. Fast shipping and astonishing sound
 
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You can customize this. Something that sound like chin chin Thai is ambient ....
Thank you ... I forgot to mention in my question that I am on iOS, hence I do NOT have the app and cannot customize anything :)

@DigDub and I kinda agreed on a glossary / sounds like like this
Jiang zao - reduce noise, also known as noise reduction
Jian ting - listen simultaneously, also known as ambient mode
Kai - switch on
Guan - switch off

so, chin chin thai / jian ting kai ... same same ... i guess :D
 
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Care to elaborate on this Neutron solution, please? It’s a paid app, right? Worth it? Are there alternatives?
Thanks!
I mainly use Neutron to stream FLAC and DSDs from my PC to my iPhone. Then I plug my iFI xDSD it my phone and use my JH Lola wired IEMs. The sound is absolutely incredible
 
Mar 15, 2021 at 10:52 AM Post #30,715 of 38,787

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@dj24 think this might suit your needs:
https://store.hiby.com/products/hiby-r3-pro

BT 5.0 and 2-way LDAC, plus an Android OS should at least give you the ability to have modern-ish Bluetooth and whatever app you like for gapless, though HiBy makes a great app on its own and that's the one that's cooked into the DAP. There's also a slightly more premium model with dual Sabre ES9218P DACs for those who are firmly in team ESS. Think it runs you an extra $10, so they're not asking too much, in my opinion.

Worth looking into, at least.
I have the R6 Pro and although it sounds amazing with JH Lola and my Audeze LCD-2, I’ve had a lot of issues pairing Bluetooth devices (still haven’t gotten my KEFs to pair with it...)

I also have a hard time with the wifi connection. I can be sitting in one spot in the house with jh IPhone steaming tidal perfectly but the R6 drops constantly

it is nice though to be able to pop a 1 TB SD card in
 
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It'a all relative to be honest. You might think Sony XM3 are trash but what are you basing it on - comparisons to wired iems? Of course, no competition. Compared to other wireless earphones, I stand by my opinion that they're the best out there. It's a compromise with truly wireless earphones and one shouldn't expect a wired earphone experience - not now anyway, maybe one day.
I have to concur on the XM3s. I’ve tried a number of different tips and a every imaginable EQ setting and they’re my least favorite. great ANC and for phone calls though to be fair

jabra 65 elite active, Bose NC, NUARL N6P (second favorite), and the KEFs which blow all the others away
 
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Random question for all TW's users. I have had this issue now with all the TW buds I've tried, so I know it's not an issue by brand. I'm trying to figure out if it's a Tidal issue or Android issue. Basically I'm listening to a playlist on Tidal. I can pause or switch to transparent mode say, then unpause and it continues where it lefts off. But sometimes when I try to restart the music from a pause, the playlist starts with some random track and I lose my place in the playlist. Does this happen to anyone else? And with what OS and with what music playing app?
When I add a Tidal song to my favorites (iOS), it goes to the next track. Extremely annoying
 
Mar 15, 2021 at 11:37 AM Post #30,719 of 38,787

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Anybody have the issue where they find their true Wireless earbud does not sound as loud as they want? I've noticed this was an issue for the Sennheiser and to a lesser but still true extend for the Huawei freebuds pro. However the Sony and the Melomania touch or significantly louder by comparison. I have an Android Samsung phone and decided to look up how to fix this on YouTube and discovered that by disabling the absolute volume it has a two-fold effect. the first effect is it decouples the Bluetooth volume on your phone and your earbuds such that they now work independently of one another after rebooting the phone. what this means is that you can have the volume on your buds at 100% but the phone's bluetooth volume still at 50 and so you're absolute output would still only be 50%. However if you then set your media volume on the phone to maximum and just control the volume with the earbuds it gets a significantly louder than when the two are synced together without the absolute volume disable button turned on in developer settings.

well I know this is a little less convenient because now it means when you change the volume it is not changing everything at the same time, it does give that extra volume if you need it to your earbuds.

I would estimate that the earbuds sound at least 10 to 15% louder after making this change in the developer settings. So for any of you who feel you don't have enough volume with your earbuds on Android this could be something worth trying.

On another on another note the multiparing worked very well today on my iPad and phone having both paired and swapping between the two very seamlessly. this is a feature I've only seen on the Jabra and the Huawei and for those of you who are looking for that feature I highly recommend either one of those earbuds.
 
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