yeah im most likely getting the yaxi pads for the hd58x. thanks for that advice. did you put L+R foam under the grille instead of the pads? I mean to say if you didn't have the zebra cups would you do that? I would get the zebra cups but their cost is basically the same as getting nighthawks (~$200). I was looking at the visos but they seem to have a irritating angle with the headband and earpads which requires using a dremel and literally breaking a component to increase the angle of rotation of the pads/headbands.