The penalties to the driver are ridiculous, until, as you point out you take the overall tableau into consideration. There is really no other way of penalizing a team fairly. If you say we will dock constructors points then you give teams like Mac carte blanc to do whatever they want as they know there will be no points to be docked anyway. There should be a limit on the maximum grid places to be set back though as penalizing more places than their are on the grid makes the show look like clowns are running it. When Mac first decided to partner with Honda I figured that it might be a fairly brilliant strategic move. If Honda had come out swinging it might have been a great end run to a high perf motor without suffering through the development Renault and Ferrari were having to do. After all Merc got it right on the first go. It could have been a very different story alltogether. As it turned out it was not to be and we have the mess now in progress. I still wonder if in fact there were FIA regs in effect in the initial development that hampered Honda or if in fact they just underestimated the task, made harder by Ronbo's insistence on size 0. I really hope some employee writes a book about this fiasco. It would be a fascinating read. Oh yeah. The FIA asserting its presence by forcing the Halo through. Come on guys. The best engineers in the world and you come up with something that hideous and obstructive?