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Jun 21, 2019 at 12:15 AM Post #4,427 of 9,562
Yip. They can be cheap.

I purchased some beautiful Tung-Sol roundplates NIB for US$30.00 a pair.
They sounded exactly the same as the 6F8G at $150 a pair.

I also picked up a box of 100 RCA's 6C8G for $50.00. They sounded good as well.
I have several different brands of the 6F8G and the 6C8G. IMHO the National Union sound the best.
 
Jun 21, 2019 at 4:16 PM Post #4,428 of 9,562
I have several different brands of the 6F8G and the 6C8G. IMHO the National Union sound the best.

Yeah. I am the same. I have TSRP and NU in 6F and 6C. I put TS and NU at first equal.

There is suttle differences between them. TSRP has a warmer mid range but the NU has the sweetest treble I have heard. Pick your poison.
 
Jun 23, 2019 at 11:14 AM Post #4,430 of 9,562
Generally, older tubes, manufactured in the late 1940's and early 1950's, are labeled Osram or Marconi, and later tubes are labeled GEC. The brown base was introduced in the early to mid 1950's, and the black base was standard before then. However, all these tubes were manufactured in the Hammersmith factory. And therefore, the label and the color of the base are not important other than as a rough indicator of the date of manufacture.

In my opinion, since the base was added after the tube itself was manufactured, the shape of the base likely corresponded to the end-user's requirements, maybe something as simple as to accommodate bottom-mounted sockets versus top-mounted sockets. Whatever, the shape of the base has absolutely no effect on how the tube sounds.
 
Jul 16, 2019 at 11:39 AM Post #4,433 of 9,562
2019-07-15 15.54.20.jpg Any knowledge of these two here in the forums? Just got the Sylvania 7236 here and seems like it might match up with the Tung Sol 7236, the latter (Tung- Sol) appears to have a higher amplification.
 
Jul 16, 2019 at 12:16 PM Post #4,434 of 9,562
Any knowledge of these two here in the forums? Just got the Sylvania 7236 here and seems like it might match up with the Tung Sol 7236, the latter (Tung- Sol) appears to have a higher amplification.
The amplification factor is 4.8 compared to 2 for a 6080 tube. Don't know if it makes much of a difference in terms of noise - it should just sound a little louder.
If a 7236 tube is up to spec, it should have the same amplification no matter which brand.
 
Jul 16, 2019 at 12:32 PM Post #4,435 of 9,562
The amplification factor is 4.8 compared to 2 for a 6080 tube. Don't know if it makes much of a difference in terms of noise - it should just sound a little louder.
If a 7236 tube is up to spec, it should have the same amplification no matter which brand.
Thanks, it took my Tung Sol 7236 a few weeks to "open up" so maybe the same is required for the Sylvania 7236? i suspect that both are gonna sound more the same than different, with the Sylvania having a wider soundstage,
 
Jul 16, 2019 at 5:02 PM Post #4,436 of 9,562
I only have the Tung Sol 7236, but based on what I read, the TS is better sounding than the Sylvania. As always, the sound of a tube is amp dependent, and you have to let your ears be the judge.
Most tubes seem to need 30-50 hours to burn in, but some require much more time.
 
Jul 16, 2019 at 5:10 PM Post #4,437 of 9,562
I only have the Tung Sol 7236, but based on what I read, the TS is better sounding than the Sylvania. As always, the sound of a tube is amp dependent, and you have to let your ears be the judge.
Most tubes seem to need 30-50 hours to burn in, but some require much more time.
Yes the Tung Sol on initial listen has the tighter control in vocals and bass, and somewhat faster, the only tube that the Sylvania sounded better with was the Black Treasure...it wasn't even close. Thanks for your input, I had written a little write up for another thread then decided to can it until the Sylvania was burned in. Might not matter, the Tung Sol has its reputation for a reason. :)
 
Jul 18, 2019 at 6:25 AM Post #4,439 of 9,562
That's a bit surprising, one thing I've never found the Tung Sol 5998 to be is lean and bright, In my system the TS is warm, but not overly so, transparent, with good detail and deep, warm bass. If they are NOS it maybe that they need a few hours burn in.

Just curious: were you using HD650 or HD800 or other headphones with the 5998?
 

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