Focusrite Saffire ... what is this product?
Jan 14, 2010 at 12:50 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 11

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A bit of a n00b question here...

What I'm looking for is perhaps a USB or FIREWIRE device that will:

- be a high end sound card
- provide amplification for high end headphones (replace a portable amplifier?)
- Provide various inputs so I can switch quickly between my computer's sound and some other ordinary analog sound source, without unplugging my headphones


Will something like the focusrite saffrire do all, or ANY of this?

Can someone explain what I need, and also, What a focusrite saffire does? (besides the DSP features which I have no interest for)
 
Jan 14, 2010 at 8:21 PM Post #3 of 11
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Originally Posted by cloneman /img/forum/go_quote.gif
A bit of a n00b question here...

What I'm looking for is perhaps a USB or FIREWIRE device that will:

- be a high end sound card
- provide amplification for high end headphones (replace a portable amplifier?)
- Provide various inputs so I can switch quickly between my computer's sound and some other ordinary analog sound source, without unplugging my headphones


Will something like the focusrite saffrire do all, or ANY of this?

Can someone explain what I need, and also, What a focusrite saffire does? (besides the DSP features which I have no interest for)



I believe you're referring to the recently-discontinued Saffire stand-alone firewire interface, rather than the Saffire family. You *might* have a use for the DSP features. Give them a try with playback software, which in some cases you should be able to route through the filters. There is actually a cheaper unit without DSP features as well.


In essence, the Saffire will do everything you put down, except that the unit is not bus-powered from a Windows laptop so it won't replace a portable amp. It's a transportable unit. The input activation and gain controls will allow you to 'switch' between the other audio source that you plug in: i.e. patch the appropriate input to the output in the control software, turn up the volume to hear the other source, turn it down to hear only your computer's output. There are only two mono (i.e. one stereo) analog inputs though. Personally I prefer to have audio switching duties beyond the soundcard (unless in a hybrid game/audio soundcard arrangement), but it's your choice.


If you want to componentise it in the hi-fi sense, it's a transportable ADC, DAC and headphone amp. In terms of general performance of any of those components, I would say with reasonable confidence that if you stacked up any of the custom stuff you can buy here for the same price with modules like the Saffire blind, most people would be hard pressed to hear the difference. Hell... most people have a hard enough time trying to tell a Behringer mixer headphone stage and a >$200 amp apart, especially if both are rehoused in equally impressive boxes
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As playback interfaces/transports for any of my computers for 'serious' listening I don't bother with the nerdthusiast end of the soundcard market, but stick with pro audio soundcards. Somewhat less BS or parts-overdetailing for the sake of it on the whole and an emphasis on straightforward results, and what I do for a more 'traditional' hi-fi patina is to stick consumer DACs after them. The old Saffire is one of the more decent choices you could make as an all-in-one audio interface, especially at the closeout prices you can find NOS/refurbished editions for these days. As a superceded product though, I'd double-check software compatibility with what you have.
 
Jan 14, 2010 at 10:43 PM Post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by cloneman /img/forum/go_quote.gif
A bit of a n00b question here...

What I'm looking for is perhaps a USB or FIREWIRE device that will:

- be a high end sound card
- provide amplification for high end headphones (replace a portable amplifier?)
- Provide various inputs so I can switch quickly between my computer's sound and some other ordinary analog sound source, without unplugging my headphones


Will something like the focusrite saffrire do all, or ANY of this?

Can someone explain what I need, and also, What a focusrite saffire does? (besides the DSP features which I have no interest for)



I have an ESI Quatafire 610, but it is a discontinued product. I believe ESI still makes things that are similar, though. I have no knowledge of focusrite.
 
Jan 15, 2010 at 2:19 PM Post #6 of 11
Absolute sound did a review of this product and loved it - they thought it trounced any USB DAC on the market. Here's the link. It has piqued my interest. If I can figure out how it would work on my laptop... I may pick one up next week and report back.

EDIT: I talked it through with one of their technical representatives, and basically the differences between using this and a USB DAC shouldn't make it too difficult to adapt to. You just need a 4 pin to 6 pin firewire cable and a 1/4" to RCA cable to hook the Saffire up to your computer and amp, and there's a driver installation that you do initially. I bought it from musiciansfriend.com, which had both the lowest price ($399 for the Pro 24) and a 45-day no-questions-asked money back guarantee in case this turns into a failed experiment. Looking forward to reporting back in a few weeks, with impressions vs a PS Audio DLIII, NuForce uDAC, and (potentially) a Music Streamer Pro!
 
Jan 16, 2010 at 11:36 PM Post #7 of 11
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Hello,

Thanks for your replies.

This is the product I was referring to.

Amazon.com: Focusrite Saffire 4 In/10 Out Firewire Audio Interface: Musical Instruments

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This does have 2 stereo inputs, right?



I don't remember it to have. I believe the line inputs are coupled with the TRS's. Can't remember whether it had another set of inputs on the back.


Bear in mind however that if you want to switch between sources this way, you'll need to handle it in the manager software. I prefer knobs and have always used monitor switchers for that sort of use, unless I'm running a hybrid gaming / music soundcard setup.
 
Mar 6, 2010 at 6:55 PM Post #10 of 11
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i have one and i think there was a workaround for windows 7 64-bit as well.
will chack if it still works when i get back home.



Well I guess He did not say he'd let anyone know if it worked.
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Mar 6, 2010 at 8:49 PM Post #11 of 11
If you're just looking to drive a Beyer 770 pro/80, you can get great sound with something that's cheaper and that you don't have to do workarounds for new operating systems.

Have a quick run over to the dedicated source forum, and check out what people are saying about usb DAC units there.

Edit: Sorry, missed the part about analog in as well.
 

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