[up late]

Which still makes you very unrepresentative of the average Utopia buyer.

how would you describe the "average utopia buyer"?

 

[LCMusicLover]

how would you describe the "average utopia buyer"?

Speaking only about myself, I'd say, someone with more money than brains

 

[headblid]

I don’t know if I should feel more hurt not having a set...

Speaking only about myself, I'd say, someone with more money than brains

 

[506638]

^ how do you know that focal sources the conductor from china and that it is also cheap?

Sorry but if I want to keep on info an knowing three months or more before which will be the next Focal before most people, I can't give any name.

Cheap ? Because it is OFC. Go to AliExpress and have a look at the price. Then ask the seller about the price on quantity.

How can I know that some US Hi-Fi brands are just assembling chinese boards ? Because I looked inside. Quite easy

 

[506638]

The utopia and its siblings are not massive as you think. They are rather compact among flagship headphones. She does not look awkward.

Yep, thanx Photoshop

 

[Sonic Defender]

how would you describe the "average utopia buyer"?

Male, in possession of more disposable income than most and statistically speaking, certainly not a male model.

 

[506638]

I like Chord too, don't know much about Naim.

In a summary, FOCAL + NAIM = Vervent Audio Group Holding (that's why NAIM stopped producing speakers in 2016)
NAIM does first rate equipments (except cables) and consider as much important the power supply.
IMHO, there are brands in the US that do less expensive really great units .

 

[up late]

Male, in possession of more disposable income than most and statistically speaking, certainly not a male model.

well you could characterise anyone (including females and beats owners) in that way who is prepared to pay hundreds of bucks for a headphone

 

[up late]

Sorry but if I want to keep on info an knowing three months or more before which will be the next Focal before most people, I can't give any name.

Cheap ? Because it is OFC. Go to AliExpress and have a look at the price. Then ask the seller about the price on quantity.

How can I know that some US Hi-Fi brands are just assembling chinese boards ? Because I looked inside. Quite easy

with respect, you make these claims and when asked to substantiate them, your response is that you can't because the information is "confidential" or privileged for some unknown reason. i suggest that you consider not making them if you are unable to provide or prevented from disclosing any supporting evidence.

 

[Sonic Defender]

well you could characterise anyone (including females and beats owners) in that way who is prepared to pay hundreds of bucks for a headphone

Scale thousands versus hundreds. Still circular discussion, I will still guarantee you that the average Utopia owner is not a man who models for a living. I'll take any odds on that contention. Any takers?

 

[up late]

Scale thousands versus hundreds. Still circular discussion, I will still guarantee you that the average Utopia owner is not a man who models for a living. I'll take any odds on that contention. Any takers?

yes it is, so let's not derail the thread with it

 

[PeteSTRADAMUS]

Are we measuring our dacs again guys? Lol

 

[paul30d]

If you noticed on the Focal videos, you never really see the typical Utopia buyer. They are all female / male models wearing them. I doubt they represent the average person. They even usually matching clothes.

Stellia model / Abyss Phi model

 

[PeteSTRADAMUS]

Stellia model / Abyss Phi model

 

[emrelights1973]

In a summary, FOCAL + NAIM = Vervent Audio Group Holding (that's why NAIM stopped producing speakers in 2016)
NAIM does first rate equipments (except cables) and consider as much important the power supply.
IMHO, there are brands in the US that do less expensive really great units .

I am using Naim Superlumina cabers, interconnects and speaker cables, although they might be outsourced production....

and I think Naim is expensive in US