@Music Alchemist Speakers will always have better soundstage than headphones. No argument there. Soundstage perception when listening to music or watching movies with headphones on is an extremely important factor to consider in my opinion. Soundstage perception also aids a headphone in being able to accurately image too. To me a headphone that has a poor soundstage replication makes a piece of music that was recorded in a music hall or auditorium sound like it was recorded in a tunnel or small room. Headphones that have a poor soundstage just tend to narrow music for me which just takes too much away from live recordings. On the flip side some headphones, like the HD800S, stretch out the sound stage a bit too much and can make music sound 2 dimensional rather than holographic (maybe due to its warmer tuning?). I came to this conclusion when comparing the HD800S to the Pioneer SE-Master 1 on a 10k system with the SE cable. I hope to audition the Utopia one day. Until then I'm gonna start saving my pennies for it.