Focal Utopia General Discussion
Aug 5, 2022 at 10:45 PM Post #18,286 of 18,675

RobertSM

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Oct 13, 2018
Posts
797
Likes
1,680
Location
California
"new design codes" and "future Utopia products"

What does that mean? Is there going to be a different Utopia product than this one (maybe the Grande Utopia, rumored), or am I just reading too much into that?

This text definitely reads as to more products in the range. Maybe the Utopia line will have multiple headphones in it?
 
Last edited:
Aug 5, 2022 at 10:48 PM Post #18,287 of 18,675

BassicScience

1000+ Head-Fier
Joined
Feb 3, 2017
Posts
1,263
Likes
2,380
Why would a grille improve treble? Also, what does improved linearity mean? Anybody have any ideas?
The decrease in mass of the voice coil could result in improved treble, since higher mass/inertia is harder to control at higher frequencies. The effects of the change in grille are harder to predict, but might possibly result in improved linearity (i.e. flatter frequency response). FWIW.

Based on what I've read so far, I wouldn't necessarily expect a radical change in sound signature with these updates. We shall see.
 
Aug 5, 2022 at 10:50 PM Post #18,288 of 18,675

iDesign

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Aug 12, 2004
Posts
1,514
Likes
1,066
Location
‎‎
Is anyone else bothered that they're using "improved reliability" as an upgrade, when the original should have totally had all the reliability baked-in at $4K?
While I appreciate they have acknowledged the reliability issues, the emphasis on "vastly improved reliability!" in their marketing is so strong that it reads as if the original driver design was knowingly flawed. Its the word vastly and the punctuation that are problematic.
 
Last edited:
Aug 5, 2022 at 10:56 PM Post #18,289 of 18,675

joshnor713

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Apr 1, 2014
Posts
1,651
Likes
1,442
Location
Seattle Area
This text definitely reads as to more products in the range. Maybe the Utopia line will have multiple headphones in it?
Looks like Grande Utopia's back on the menu boys!
 
Aug 5, 2022 at 10:57 PM Post #18,290 of 18,675

DJJEZ

1000+ Head-Fier
Joined
Feb 5, 2019
Posts
1,129
Likes
2,560
Location
UK
Aug 5, 2022 at 10:58 PM Post #18,291 of 18,675

Ciggavelli

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Mar 24, 2019
Posts
2,151
Likes
4,253
Location
Houston
This text definitely reads as to more products in the range. Maybe the Utopia line will have multiple headphone in it?
If I was to forecast, I’d guess if there is a “Grande Utopia,” it’s probably not coming out for a while. It wouldn’t make a lot of sense to revamp the Utopia and then sell a better version a few months later. It would piss off customers, like what happened with Hifiman in the past. But I guess you never know
 
Aug 5, 2022 at 11:29 PM Post #18,293 of 18,675

Ciggavelli

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Mar 24, 2019
Posts
2,151
Likes
4,253
Location
Houston
I'm surprised they didn't call this an "Utopia S," a la Sennheiser and Stax. Also, I can't tell if the price on the used market for the original Utopia is going to get worse or get better, given the new one costs more. :thinking:
 
Aug 5, 2022 at 11:45 PM Post #18,294 of 18,675

DJJEZ

1000+ Head-Fier
Joined
Feb 5, 2019
Posts
1,129
Likes
2,560
Location
UK
Aug 5, 2022 at 11:50 PM Post #18,295 of 18,675

up late

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Feb 19, 2013
Posts
6,651
Likes
2,540
Thanks :beerchug:

I had to look up what a voice coil does on Wikipedia. I thought it might have to do with voice reproduction, but it appears it does more than that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_coil

I guess a new voice coil could change the sound. From that side by side comparison earlier, it looks like the driver may be housed more forward than the original Utopia. What that means, if anything, is not clear to me.

Content was removed in response to a copyright claim by a third party.
thanks for enlightening us about voice coils and if you take a closer look at the photos, you may notice that you are comparing the right ear cup of the og utopia with the left ear cup of the new model
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Aug 5, 2022 at 11:50 PM Post #18,296 of 18,675

iDesign

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Aug 12, 2004
Posts
1,514
Likes
1,066
Location
‎‎
I'm surprised they didn't call this an "Utopia S," a la Sennheiser and Stax. Also, I can't tell if the price on the used market for the original Utopia is going to get worse or get better, given the new one costs more.
It’s possible the Grande Utopia is similar to the previous 40th Symphonie bundle. I would be surprised if they invested in the R&D of an even higher end headphone ahead of a economic recession and slowing consumer spending:
https://www.focal.com/en/symphonie-40th
 
Last edited:
Aug 6, 2022 at 12:21 AM Post #18,299 of 18,675

enragedlemon

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jul 14, 2014
Posts
402
Likes
224
Location
Northland, New Zealand
Damn, what's happening. I decide to go easy on the hobby to relieve my neck pain and how Focal releases an upgraded Utopia! :sweat_smile:
Regardless of how small a refresh it is I look forward to your inevitable review :)
 
Last edited:
Aug 6, 2022 at 12:37 AM Post #18,300 of 18,675

LCMusicLover

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Jan 25, 2012
Posts
3,230
Likes
3,013
Location
Oregon Coast
Literally all metal. What do you think the strings and valves are made of?
Orchestral strings are gut, not metal. Guitar stings can be metal or nylon. Bodies of clarinets are wooden. Valves are metal, but the resonance doesn’t come from that. All the valves do is control the air flow.

Bongos, congas, marimbas … all wooden.

Bottom line, many acoustic instruments are wooden and produce ‘wood-flavored’ timbre.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top